Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

[GuidoHunter]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

you dont even have a feasable argument other than "ohlolol jesus said so"

He doesn't need one to justify his stance, you know.

--Guido

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[SpookG]

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I skimmed through this as best I could before wanting to cry at some of the responses, so if I trot over something someone said (I haven't found anything yet that shows this) then well, whoops.

It shouldn't be illegal for two people to be married in the United States, regardless of orientation. In the legal sense of the word, being married gives the spouse several legal rights you wouldn't have regarding things with health and taxes, and a big issue for gays is that they entitled to those privileges and rights, and they are absolutely.

However, Christianity doesn't seem to want to support gay marriage, as their definition is that of one between a man and a woman. That is a religious ceremony, not a legal one. They can decide whether or not to allow same sex couples to wed, since it is, afterall, their religion, and shouldn't be dictated by the State at all what they decide is proper or not, because in all honestly, who gives a ****?

It's not really discrimination, its the rules of the club. Want to be a part of it play by the rules. Don't want to be, don't expect a priest to give you a Christian wedding ceremony.

Supreme court can't force the church to change their viewpoint, but it is unfair that a religious mindset influences the legal rights of a citizen in this country, and that's what the whole argument is about more or less.

What bothers me is the arguing point focuses more on the actual ceremony and less about the legal version of the word, which is where the rights come in and the conflict arises and I find it hard to justify denying rights to a human being while granting them to another, especially when it is stating we are all equal in the Constitution. Focusing on things like whether or not it is a disease, disorder, or other inhibitions or feelings are moot compared to that point. They are people, they deserve rights just like you do.

I don't know..maybe that's just me..but that's how I see it all..my two cents, pretty much.

[ToshX]

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I actually came to CT, WTF.

Banning gay marriage is like taking our rights away. It's not like it's really harming anyone else, it's just giving people what they want. There is no reason to stop it from happening. It's not like we have a problem with population growth, or like it'd stop gay sex anyway. The only people that could disagree with it are people who cannot stand different people, and that's not a realistic reason to get rid of it.

[FoJaR]

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nah, i'm fine with gay people.

[talisman]

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there's really just no reason not to allow it. I refuse to buy into slippery slope -- that logic is unfounded and not supported by existing examples.

Furthermore, churches need not administer the ceremony to homosexual couples. But the courts could; that's all. And then they'd have the same rights as everyone else. I fail to see what the big deal is.

As it is, this nation is rather homophobic. Hell, my state doesn't even allow civil unions, although I'd have to look that up to make sure.

[Squeek]

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See, if this were a true democratic nation and the citizens were really running the country, we could have a say in this and actually be heard instead of posting text on a flash game's forums.

[Shashakiro]

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About the "slippery slope" thing:

The REASON gay marriage is even an issue is because there are a LOT of gay people, statistically. Let's say that it's 3% of people (no idea about the actual figure).

What percentage of people are..."bestial", i.e. would want to marry animals? I think even .0001% is generous. Same with willfully incestuous people, and pedophiles, and even fewer for any of the other weird things that the "slippery slope" argument claims will happen if gay marriage is allowed.

If .0001% of people were gay instead of 3% or whatever, I guarantee you the idea of gay marriage would be as laughable to people (including judges) as legalizing marriage for any of those other weird fetishes people have.

So yeah...basically, none of those things will ever happen beacuse there is no public support whatsoever for them, and there never will be. Tons of people are either gay or personally know someone who's gay, and that's why gay people get support.

[FaughtNWon]

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Nothing wrong with homos. Banning gay marriage is an infraction of rights. Though i dont see eye to eye with homosexuals, I dont hate them. I dont understand why everyone wants to pry into there affairs and thier business, its no one else's right to tell you what you can and cannot do. If someone wanted to marry a ****ing pig i wouldnt give a ****. Let people do as the please. But that will never happen in this land of so many "freedoms".

Anyone who says otherwise, needs to be deported to a Dictatorship rules country. Since in esence its the same thing.

[esupin]

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Being a black Democrat, I highly doubt Deval Patrick is going to crap all over any minority present in Massachusetts.



Yes, and thank the Lord. I could've done a better job than Romney.

I am talking about ROMNEY because Patrick doesn't become gov until January 4th or something. He's doing weird stuff to look good for a presidential run, which is why he didn't run for reelection. I don't know if anyone brought that point up already.

5 pages too late, but I just wanted to throw that out there.

[talisman]

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squeek, the U.S. isn't a democracy... it's a republic. Last democracy I can remember was ancient Greece (where, incidentally, homosexuality/bisexuality was quite prevalent).

edit: come to think of it, ancient Greece wasn't a pure democracy either. It's a bit too unfeasible, unfortunately, to have everyone vote on everything. And I have a feeling that even if everyone in this nation were to vote on gay marriage, it would get shot down, due to the strong cultural conservative presence in America.

[esupin]

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Look back to cases like Brown v Board of Education- you can't have the majority get what they want every time. People are bitching because the Supreme Court decision was 4-3 (unlike Brown), but that's too bad for them.

[Squeek]

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squeek, the U.S. isn't a democracy... it's a republic. Last democracy I can remember was ancient Greece (where, incidentally, homosexuality/bisexuality was quite prevalent).

When did that change?

I was always taught that we were a democratic republic.

Freakin' public schools.

[FaughtNWon]

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When did that change?

I was always taught that we were a democratic republic.

Freakin' public schools.

Ahh Public schools. That explains it.
Liars.

[ToshX]

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I've attended both public and private schools, I have to say that private are far superior <.< Even if they're inexpensive.

[Pikachu655]

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Gay Marage should continue to stay legal becuse just becuse you like people of the same sex doesn't mean you're preverted or sick! The People that like the same gender shouldn't be labeled at all becuase of their belifes or likeings but for who they are! TAKE AWAY THE WORD GAY AND LEZBO DAMN IT!