Fremdschämen- a word you should know

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  • hi19hi19
    lol happy
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #1

    Fremdschämen- a word you should know

    The English language is adept at picking up bits of vocabulary from other languages — it’s one of the greatest strengths of English. I’ve just read of a word in German that I have needed for decades:

    Schadenfreude captures a much more complex psychological concept, and therefore lacks a single-word counterpart in the English dictionary (Schadenfreude itself is a combination of the German words Schaden and Freude; meaning damage and joy respectively).

    Nonetheless, Schadenfreude is such a basic human experience, that it is only natural that — if you don’t develop your own word for it — you would certainly want to adopt somebody else’s word for it into your vocabulary.

    Another word that seems similarly essential to describing a particular feeling that most humans experience at some time or another, but which — unlike Schadenfreude — has somehow evaded incorporation into the English language, appears in the verb “Fremdschämen“:

    Fremdschämen describes embarrassment which is experienced in response to someone else’s actions, but it is markedly different from simply being embarrassed for someone else. In particular it is different from being embarrassed because of how another person’s actions reflect on us or because of how another person’s actions make us look in the eyes of others.

    Instead, Fremdscham (the noun) describes the almost-horror you feel when you notice that somebody is oblivious to how embarrassing they truly are. Fremdscham occurs when someone who should feel embarrassed for themselves simply is not, and you start feeling embarrassment in their place. It is at the heart of beloved “mockumentaries” such as The Office, Modern Family, or Ricky Gervais’ Extras. It is also what makes the auditions for American Idol, Britain’s got Talent and Deutschland Sucht den Superstar so discomfortingly entertaining…


    I've basically been looking for a word to describe this feeling for my whole life, and I've finally found it.
    Thank you, Germany.


  • Winrar
    Quasi-porn
    • Jan 2008
    • 1843

    #2
    Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

    This is how I feel everytime I see Eduardo.

    Originally posted by Staiain
    I'm sorry but... *flicks hair* I don't DO 0.x rates 8)

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    • Xayphon
      sausage
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Nov 2008
      • 1630

      #3
      Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

      np

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      • Mau5
        FFR Player
        • Nov 2011
        • 790

        #4
        Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

        Wow haha. Pretty crazy
        How to start an argument online:
        Step 1) Express an opinion
        Step 2) Wait....

        Originally posted by Arntonach
        It's great to see how the internet works, it's mask of anonymity bringing out the worst in people.

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        • Zageron
          Zageron E. Tazaterra
          FFR Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 6592

          #5
          Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

          -Fremdschämen-

          "frem-da-shamen"
          "freim-da-che-i-man"
          "frai-za-a-mien"

          ...

          If give up. Cool word though! 8D

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          • sakura080789
            Rapture Universe
            • Feb 2007
            • 1751

            #6
            Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

            it may not be a word that describes my life but this could describe alot of situations i have had

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            • igotrhythm
              Fractals!
              • Sep 2004
              • 6535

              #7
              Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

              hi19, as much as I hate your files sometimes, you are a beautiful, sensitive and learned man.
              Originally posted by thesunfan
              I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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              • CammyGoesRawr
                nocturnal girl (〜✘﹏✘)〜
                • Jul 2011
                • 2477

                #8
                Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                Originally posted by Zageron
                -Fremdschämen-

                "frem-da-shamen"
                "freim-da-che-i-man"
                "frai-za-a-mien"

                ...

                If give up. Cool word though! 8D
                Fremd-shay-min

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                • Choofers
                  FFR Player
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6205

                  #9
                  Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                  Fremdrämen

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                  • robertsona
                    missa in h-moll
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3997

                    #10
                    Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                    I think we just call this "second-hand embarrassment"

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                    • Choofers
                      FFR Player
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 6205

                      #11
                      Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      I think we just call this "second-hand embarrassment"
                      or "man, I'm embarrassed for you"

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                      • Zageron
                        Zageron E. Tazaterra
                        FFR Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6592

                        #12
                        Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                        generally we just o\
                        no need for words

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                        • hi19hi19
                          lol happy
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 12194

                          #13
                          Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                          Originally posted by igotrhythm
                          hi19, as much as I hate your files sometimes, you are a beautiful, sensitive and learned man.
                          lol why, thank you :')


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                          • Xayphon
                            sausage
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1630

                            #14
                            Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                            Take the first "e" from everything and you have something that sounds like "ä"

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