Fremdschämen- a word you should know

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  • #1
    lol happy
    FFR Simfile Author
    hi19hi19
    • Oct 2005
    • 12283

    Fremdschämen- a word you should know

    The English language is adept at picking up bits of vocabulary from other languages — it’s one of the greatest strengths of English. I’ve just read of a word in German that I have needed for decades:

    Schadenfreude captures a much more complex psychological concept, and therefore lacks a single-word counterpart in the English dictionary (Schadenfreude itself is a combination of the German words Schaden and Freude; meaning damage and joy respectively).

    Nonetheless, Schadenfreude is such a basic human experience, that it is only natural that — if you don’t develop your own word for it — you would certainly want to adopt somebody else’s word for it into your vocabulary.

    Another word that seems similarly essential to describing a particular feeling that most humans experience at some time or another, but which — unlike Schadenfreude — has somehow evaded incorporation into the English language, appears in the verb “Fremdschämen“:

    Fremdschämen describes embarrassment which is experienced in response to someone else’s actions, but it is markedly different from simply being embarrassed for someone else. In particular it is different from being embarrassed because of how another person’s actions reflect on us or because of how another person’s actions make us look in the eyes of others.

    Instead, Fremdscham (the noun) describes the almost-horror you feel when you notice that somebody is oblivious to how embarrassing they truly are. Fremdscham occurs when someone who should feel embarrassed for themselves simply is not, and you start feeling embarrassment in their place. It is at the heart of beloved “mockumentaries” such as The Office, Modern Family, or Ricky Gervais’ Extras. It is also what makes the auditions for American Idol, Britain’s got Talent and Deutschland Sucht den Superstar so discomfortingly entertaining…


    I've basically been looking for a word to describe this feeling for my whole life, and I've finally found it.
    Thank you, Germany.


  • #2
    Quasi-porn
    Winrar
    • Jan 2008
    • 1881

    Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

    This is how I feel everytime I see Eduardo.

    Originally posted by Staiain
    I'm sorry but... *flicks hair* I don't DO 0.x rates 8)

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    • #3
      sausage
      FFR Simfile Author
      Xayphon
      • Nov 2008
      • 1632

      Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

      np

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      • #4
        FFR Player
        Mau5
        • Nov 2011
        • 790

        Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

        Wow haha. Pretty crazy
        How to start an argument online:
        Step 1) Express an opinion
        Step 2) Wait....

        Originally posted by Arntonach
        It's great to see how the internet works, it's mask of anonymity bringing out the worst in people.

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        • #5
          Zageron E. Tazaterra
          FFR Administrator
          Zageron
          • Apr 2007
          • 6592

          Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

          -Fremdschämen-

          "frem-da-shamen"
          "freim-da-che-i-man"
          "frai-za-a-mien"

          ...

          If give up. Cool word though! 8D

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          • #6
            Rapture Universe
            sakura080789
            • Feb 2007
            • 1751

            Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

            it may not be a word that describes my life but this could describe alot of situations i have had

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            • #7
              Fractals!
              igotrhythm
              • Sep 2004
              • 6590

              Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

              hi19, as much as I hate your files sometimes, you are a beautiful, sensitive and learned man.
              Originally posted by thesunfan
              I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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              • #8
                nocturnal girl (〜✘﹏✘)〜
                CammyGoesRawr
                • Jul 2011
                • 2477

                Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                Originally posted by Zageron
                -Fremdschämen-

                "frem-da-shamen"
                "freim-da-che-i-man"
                "frai-za-a-mien"

                ...

                If give up. Cool word though! 8D
                Fremd-shay-min

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                • #9
                  FFR Player
                  FFR Music Producer
                  Choofers
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6205

                  Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                  Fremdrämen

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                  • #10
                    missa in h-moll
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                    robertsona
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 4003

                    Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                    I think we just call this "second-hand embarrassment"

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                    • #11
                      FFR Player
                      FFR Music Producer
                      Choofers
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 6205

                      Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      I think we just call this "second-hand embarrassment"
                      or "man, I'm embarrassed for you"

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                      • #12
                        Zageron E. Tazaterra
                        FFR Administrator
                        Zageron
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6592

                        Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                        generally we just o\
                        no need for words

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                        • #13
                          lol happy
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          hi19hi19
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 12283

                          Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                          Originally posted by igotrhythm
                          hi19, as much as I hate your files sometimes, you are a beautiful, sensitive and learned man.
                          lol why, thank you :')


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                          • #14
                            sausage
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            Xayphon
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1632

                            Re: Fremdschämen- a word you should know

                            Take the first "e" from everything and you have something that sounds like "ä"

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