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  • Reincarnate
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6332

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    What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

    I was just tinkering around in the techno thread I started, when I thought of this question and was wondering how you all felt about it.

    I've always loved trance/techno. It speaks worlds to me, and it's always confused the living shit out of me why other people seem to hate it (especially here in America, finding fellow trance/techno junkies is much harder than it in is Europe). But of course, the same could be said for any music genre. So why do I like techno/trance/classical/pop, and why do I hate, say, most rap or country?

    One thing I noticed is that I almost never listen to music objectively. If I listen to techno "objectively," I am literally hearing just a bunch of synthesized sounds strung together. But when I am normally listening to it, my imagination is typically engaged pretty heavily. One thing I do is sort of "auto-MV" the music in my head. Sometimes I'll like a song because I can imagine it fitting in really well with a hypothetical video game/movie cutscene, and that brings forth all the emotional underpinnings that make me associate it with the music.

    A good example is Orbital's Halcyon and On and On which is a very cool song by itself, but usually I'll couple this subconsciously with a really nostalgic/sentimental hypothetical scene in my head as I listen to it.

    When I listen to something classical, I tend to pay attention to the complexities and how everything works together seamlessly -- in a way that I don't get out of other genres. When I listen to catchy pop music (say Gaga's "Born This Way") I don't mentally couple it with anything at all, but I rather just enjoy the underlying rhythms.

    But country/rap? I have no intellectual appreciation of it. I don't identify with the sounds, the lyrics, etc -- and my imagination can't take it anywhere nice. It's just dissonant to me.

    In other words, sometimes I have no idea why I like what I do, but I realize what I do when I listen to music may be totally different from what others do. Thoughts?
  • who_cares973
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2006
    • 15407

    #2
    Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

    i do the same thing with classical music. i cant really say why i like certain songs and genres and why i like others less(i dont really hate any genre of music). stuff like secedes leraine always gets me and almost brings me to tears its so amazing. i guess i associate different sounds and rhythms and what not with different emotions.

    when it comes to rap though i tend to pay more attention to the lyrics and what they mean to me and how they accompany the music. this is also why im very picky when it comes to rap.

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    • sakura080789
      Rapture Universe
      • Feb 2007
      • 1751

      #3
      Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

      Good Music: makes my mind do backflips Bad Music: makes my mind seizure

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      • Matsumisan
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2011
        • 78

        #4
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        • MrGiggles
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2005
          • 2846

          #5
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          ^one of my favorite videos OFF DA RAILZ

          Rubix I'm really glad you made this thread because now I know I'm not the only person who, as you put it, auto MV's songs. I mean, after reading r/DAE for months I probably could have guessed that nothing I do is unique, but confirmation is nice.

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          • Xx{Midnight}xX
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2007
            • 8548

            #6
            Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

            When I listen to good music: If it has good lyrics then I memorize them. At one point I could quote Dream Theaters Octavarium (A 24 minute song mind you...) from memory on command. I can only do like the ending now days though lol
            Bad: Come up with a creative way to tell everyone how shitty it is.

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            • awein999
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              • Oct 2007
              • 4647

              #7
              Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

              I picture a connection between the song and myself.

              I listen to hard rock and screamo and I can sympathize with the music by picturing something I am frustrated about and I sense communicating and solving the issue effortlessly through it. Sometimes even reliving an issue just to feel like it's going to be solved. I listen to dubstep and it's a wild adventure of complex sounds that excites me for the unpredictable nature of the sounds. It plays to my creative juices. I feel boundless and clear minded when listening to dub. Classical is pretty similar except it's more serene and relaxing instead of getting me all revved up.

              I tend to connect well with almost all types of music. Best with music that intellectually challenges me and is sending a creative message. I enjoy everything, some just more than others and in different ways.
              Originally posted by Staiain
              i am super purple hippo

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              • Spenner
                Forum User
                • Nov 2006
                • 2403

                #8
                Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

                I've put a lot of time into studying my own experiences with music, observing all of the subtleties and trying to figure out why I like what I like.

                What I've gathered is it's all about the associations I make as they come. As I read a book, the words dance together as imagery in my head, and as the music shoots into my head the associations gather to build some wonderful mental pictures. For me I have particularly visual and consuming imagery, where it feels like I have space around me where I am in a "zone" comprised of the musical imagery, and outside of that spacial region belongs my day-to-day thoughts.

                I tend to listen to music with no words, no obvious parts to it. As a visual artist, I create new ideas by abstracting things I already know, amplifying subtle characteristics and exploring ways I can make a structured and vast world out of these seldom seen details. When I hear music with no words, just a sequence after sequence of this alien sound... the associations become so much more profound. Now I'm not letting words from someone's lyrics impact me, it's all my own doing, my own original experience with the music. Obviously everyone's experience with ANY song is original, not denying that, but there are moments where creativity is profoundly more obvious in the associations without hints.

                I tend to sink deeply into an atmosphere of a song. If something sounds like it's being played inside of a room, from that point, I picture a room. All of the elements, if there's any kind of background drone, perhaps there's mist, smoke, or some kind of dense element to the scene.

                I won't get too far into details, but every part of every element of each song is a pixel on the mind's palette. I'm sure everyone can get vibrant and beautiful imagery if they focus on the right spots, and ease their focus on others (trying to see images that the music creates just leads to focus on the trying part, less of letting the music do it's own thing).

                All of the art I do is based on the movements and moods of music. Take this one for example,



                For this particular drawing there are fluid strands, tension releasing on this large mass of other imagery, like when a drop of water is about to disconnect from faucet's wet rim.

                The way music connects with even the most subtle of details to paint a detailed picture is breathtaking. It's expressionistic art is one of my most favourite past times, it's so rewarding, and it's just drawing what I see as I see it.

                Back to the book analogy, it really is as if these abstract sounds are being read like a book, and the imagery is just as clear. Songs like this might give you an idea, this is one of the songs I was listening to as I drew the above image:



                Can anyone relate? Also I'm pretty sure the automatic interpretation of sounds as imagery classifies as synesthesia, I've always speculated that I might have it. Even voices do not automatically register as voices, they first register as abstract patterns. For example, "Hello" looks like peering down a cave made of purple static, or my own name, for instance, looks like a series of yellow and green (I'm colourblind, can't tell which lol) squares mashed together in the shape of my name written out, if you were to outline it very roughly after printing it.

                I could go on for pages about the experience I get from music. I'll spare you the details though
                Last edited by Spenner; 01-2-2012, 03:04 PM.

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                • Choofers
                  FFR Player
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6205

                  #9
                  Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

                  Originally posted by Spenner
                  Can anyone relate? Also I'm pretty sure the automatic interpretation of sounds as imagery classifies as synesthesia, I've always speculated that I might have it. Even voices do not automatically register as voices, they first register as abstract patterns. For example, "Hello" looks like peering down a cave made of purple static, or my own name, for instance, looks like a series of yellow and green (I'm colourblind, can't tell which lol) squares mashed together in the shape of my name written out, if you were to outline it very roughly after printing it.

                  I could go on for pages about the experience I get from music. I'll spare you the details though
                  no wonder your art is what it is, this is definitely synesthesia

                  I've found that I have synthesia-like-episodes when I'm high

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                  • DossarLX ODI
                    Batch Manager
                    Game Manager
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 14999

                    #10
                    Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

                    Originally posted by Reincarnate
                    In other words, sometimes I have no idea why I like what I do, but I realize what I do when I listen to music may be totally different from what others do. Thoughts?
                    Reminds me of a great read I saw earlier: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/05/...introspection/
                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
                    oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                    • Spenner
                      Forum User
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 2403

                      #11
                      Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

                      Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                      Reminds me of a great read I saw earlier: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/05/...introspection/
                      This does NOT apply to everyone. I can pick apart almost any of my particular tastes in anything, just because of the fact that I've spent so long studying the interaction between experience > emotional impact and every other little ripple that may occur. Paying close attention to the subtlest of changes in the psyche as an experience comes and goes is what I apparently do in my spare time, and way too often ~_~

                      Really though, it all depends on the person. The more familiar you are with yourself and your mind, the easier it's going to be to explain something that involves a "why you like it" type question.

                      Also I don't know if it's just me but writing an essay on why that tree photo might be so popular would be a very easy task :s

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                      • 00Razor00
                        FFR Player
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3530

                        #12
                        Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

                        my mind hurts when i listen to bad music


                        Originally posted by t-rogdor
                        hey buddy are you looking for a good song to step because if so i really recommend you step In Front Of A Bus

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                        • rushyrulz
                          Digital Dancing!
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                          • Feb 2006
                          • 12985

                          #13
                          Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

                          I enjoy music such as techno, trance, some dubstep, classical, and metal (not heavy metal), because I have a very musical ear. A second year piano student could read sheets better than me, but when you ask anyone who has heard me play piano, they'd probably say I know my way around a keyboard, which is mainly rooted from my ability to listen to a song and play it by ear after listening only once or twice.

                          I guess what I'm getting at here is that I can 'feel' music even more when I'm playing/creating it myself. I've just sat down and played shit that I pulled out of my ass for half an hour, whereas if I were reading sheets I would be more distracted from my piss poor ability to decipher the black dots on the page than focusing on the music itself. This is the reason I think FFR/Stepmania is fun, I can read the charts and play them effortlessly thanks to muscle memory, and it kind of feels like I'm actually 'playing' the song, relating more to the music.

                          I get the most emotional reaction -per say- from melodic rock and dubstep mainly because there's interesting riffs and sections that are fairly unique and unexpected at times. An example of this is Shadow Gallery's War For Sale which actually made me get up and spaz out like a little girl because it's that amazing (mainly the solo section in the linked video.)

                          As for country and rap, it's like I'm in English class and I have to decipher what the hell anything means, made even more retarded by the speed and slang in rap and the southern accents in country with lyrics made up of crap I can't relate to 97.4% of the time. Music moves me, not lyrics.


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                          • justin_ator
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                            • Mar 2007
                            • 7648

                            #14
                            Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

                            I'm with Carlos, I don't really hate any genre. I can't really connect with rap and country like Marcus, but I don't hate it. There are just very few songs I can really enjoy.

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                            • Trogdor!!!!
                              Forum User
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1664

                              #15
                              Re: What does your mind do when you listen to good music? Bad music?

                              Originally posted by rushyrulz
                              Music moves me, not lyrics.
                              This. I listen some heavier forms of metal, but mainly for the drum-line which is the first thing I always pay attention to in metal. Chiptune is actually my favorite type of music, and I've never been able to figure out why. Kommi is actually amazingly good at making Chiptune and I actually have a few songs of his. Henry Homesweet, Sabrepulse, Maru, etc. are all some pretty good Chiptune artists that I listen to, and I think it's honestly the melody of most Chiptune that gets me the most, although to me it all sounds eargasmic. As for my least favorite type of music, if I ever listen to rap (which is my least favorite type by far) I never pay attention to the words and listen to the background music which is actually pretty good sometimes, and Country.. I just think sounds awful. lol
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