Secret / Purchased / Legacy
Introduction
Hello FFR public, I’ve been thinking about this a little bit recently, and I’m sure it’s been brought up numerous times. This may seem somewhat dumb to you that someone actually cares about this, or even thought about it. But this is something that does need to be addressed eventually.
I feel this is pretty simple. I simply think a few things about the genres need slight reworking. I have no idea how long this would take to do, or how important on the coder’s list of priorities this would be, but hey, throwing it out as an idea can’t hurt right?
The Secret Genre
Am I the only one who sees the list of songs in secret and wonders why songs of lower difficulty are harder to obtain than songs of higher difficulty?
- In short: Why do I need 23,000 credits to obtain Honki Sentai Majirenjaa – Eurobeat Version- a 12, when I need 25,000 credits to play k8107?
- I understand the Song Of The Years, Max Forever ect being special exceptions, and my suggestion is rather than keep them in the Secret Genre, I suggest moving them to the Purchased Genre. It’d make a lot more sense for the sake of sorting this genre.
Now, being difficulties of each chart are subjective, this list can be debated. I’m not saying to go by this list on the dot, but this is a pretty general idea.
Note: The following songs have been removed due to the fact they belong in the Legacy genre. (Something else I will be touching on later.)
1. Burnout
2. Fette’s Vette
3. Water Like Pudding
4. Synesthetic FFR Edit
5. Green Twilight FFR Edit
6. Abtrusity
7. Visions (NRGyzd mix)
8. For FFR
The following songs are removed from the list due to being Song Of The Year
1. Max Forever (2,006 credits)
2. 2008 (2,008 credits)
Note: This list is in fact in order of what I think to be the correct difficulty progression. I won’t go so far as to suggest a credit count for this, but I would like to recommend that the first and last song’s counts remain the same to leave room for adding newer songs into the blanks. The only song that costs more than Karma as of right now, should be any added difficulty 13 chart.
Remaining songs:
1. {Lazy Summer Days}
2. La Luna Caida
3. Ingenuity
4. Noir Remixed
5. FFR Evolution
6. Betrayer Of Fate
7. Force of Light
8. Automata
9. Yukitsuklyashou
10. Hyper Presure
11. Song Of The Second Moon
12. Csikos Post
13. Radiant
14. Summer -Speedy Mix-
15. Destination Unknown
16. Gaussian Blur 3
17. Voodoo People
18. Shining Sky
19. Mute City Remix
20. Kick Your A
21. Blue Noah
22. Gradeus
23. Lawn Wake IV
24. End Night
25. Shihen
26. Fast Asleep
27. Camel
28. Blue Army
29. Guitar Sounds
30. Szerencsetlen
31. K8107
32. Ark
33. Rottel-Da-Station
34. Puzzle
35. Grocery Escape Plan
36. Midnight Dragon
37. Flesvelka
38. Staring at my Spaceship
39. He's A Radical Rat
40. Arrogant Cobbler
41. Hellhounds On My Trail
42. Strangeprogram
43. Cinnamon Roll
44. World Tour 2004
45. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival
46. Honki Sentai Majirenjaa -MAJI Eurobeat Version-
47. Blue Rose
48. Chik Habit
49. Pants
50. Jamais Deux
51. Red Wings Over Baron
52. ==Planet KARMA==
The Purchased Genre
When I look at the prices of the songs in this genre, I am disgusted at the lack of care given to thinking about these prices being on the whim of random thought.
I am purposing we either make the prices for the difficulty static (as in the difficulty 1-13 determines the price) or at least some method is put here, because as it stands, it’s – to be frank – stupid.
TL;DR: Why the world would I pay 1000 for an 11 (AIM Anthem) and 10,000 for a 12 (Holy Orders.)
Important: Know that these songs would be moved to Legacy where they belong.
1. Aim Anthem
2. Silence
3. Party 4 U V2 (Holy Nite Remix)
Also important: The following songs should be added to the genre, but are not included in the above song count.
1. MaxX Forever (2,006 credits)
2. 2008 (2,008 credits)
Note: The credit counts for these charts being purchased is kept the same from being moved from Secret. These charts are special and thus do not abide by the plans I recommend.
Plan A: Static Price
This list is in the following format:
Difficulty. Credit Price for song of this difficulty (Number of songs on this range)
1. 175 (0)
2. 300 (2)
3. 425 (1)
4. 550 (6)
5. 675 (0)
6. 800 (3)
7. 925 (1)
8. 1,000 (5)
9. 1,500 (12)
10. 2,000 (5)
11. 2,500 (8)
12. 3,000 (3)
13. 5,000 (0)
Note: The prices listed here are just a thought. I am not saying USE THIS YOU IDIOTS I’m just throwing my recommendation out. What I am going for is accessibility to how much you’d actually care to play songs of these difficulties. Paying anything more than 200 credits for a level 1 chart seems really stupid to me; but paying 10,000 for ONE 12 also doesn’t make sense to me either. Consistency is usually good, but I really think it might be a little too difficult to assign a price to difficulty.
TL;DR: Not really a fan of this plan, but multiple options for this need to be thrown out.
Plan B: A Thought Out Price
In short there needs to be a method to the pricing. Questions like this should not arise “Why is field of Snow [Light] 100 credits and is a difficulty 4, but tower is a difficulty 2 and costs 200?” Just little fallacies in pricing that I noticed and always found odd.
TL;DR: Prices shouldn’t be THAT random, but are still random song pending.
The Legacy Genre
I have said this at least three times in the suggestions thread. I’ll gladly pitch it one more time while you’re here.
Why in the living world do Legacy songs appear in both the Token level ranks, AND the Public level ranks. For the love of god pick one and keep them there. If you ask me: I prefer the token ranks. These charts can’t be taken seriously anymore, and they’re kept in the game for nostalgia. Not because these charts are actually good. (Come on the arrows are all blue, one song has an issue in being able to read it because of a video, for the love of god fix this please.)
In short:
1. Secret Genre needs a reorder by difficulty.
2. Songs with BNS (Blue Note Syndrome) should be finished being removed from the genres of Secret and Purchased into the Legacy Genre.
3. Purchased Genre needs a way to decide the prices of songs. I suggested two options.
4. Fix the level ranks for Legacy Genre charts.
5. Songs Of The Year should be moved to Purchased and priced the same as the credits to play them in Secret were previous.
Final statement
I do not know how long it would take to change all of this; but I'd like to offer that if I can help anymore on these issues, I'd love to try helping out. Thank you everyone for your attention. Even if you skipped to the "In short" section.
Hello FFR public, I’ve been thinking about this a little bit recently, and I’m sure it’s been brought up numerous times. This may seem somewhat dumb to you that someone actually cares about this, or even thought about it. But this is something that does need to be addressed eventually.
I feel this is pretty simple. I simply think a few things about the genres need slight reworking. I have no idea how long this would take to do, or how important on the coder’s list of priorities this would be, but hey, throwing it out as an idea can’t hurt right?
The Secret Genre
Am I the only one who sees the list of songs in secret and wonders why songs of lower difficulty are harder to obtain than songs of higher difficulty?
- In short: Why do I need 23,000 credits to obtain Honki Sentai Majirenjaa – Eurobeat Version- a 12, when I need 25,000 credits to play k8107?
- I understand the Song Of The Years, Max Forever ect being special exceptions, and my suggestion is rather than keep them in the Secret Genre, I suggest moving them to the Purchased Genre. It’d make a lot more sense for the sake of sorting this genre.
Now, being difficulties of each chart are subjective, this list can be debated. I’m not saying to go by this list on the dot, but this is a pretty general idea.
Note: The following songs have been removed due to the fact they belong in the Legacy genre. (Something else I will be touching on later.)
1. Burnout
2. Fette’s Vette
3. Water Like Pudding
4. Synesthetic FFR Edit
5. Green Twilight FFR Edit
6. Abtrusity
7. Visions (NRGyzd mix)
8. For FFR
The following songs are removed from the list due to being Song Of The Year
1. Max Forever (2,006 credits)
2. 2008 (2,008 credits)
Note: This list is in fact in order of what I think to be the correct difficulty progression. I won’t go so far as to suggest a credit count for this, but I would like to recommend that the first and last song’s counts remain the same to leave room for adding newer songs into the blanks. The only song that costs more than Karma as of right now, should be any added difficulty 13 chart.
Remaining songs:
1. {Lazy Summer Days}
2. La Luna Caida
3. Ingenuity
4. Noir Remixed
5. FFR Evolution
6. Betrayer Of Fate
7. Force of Light
8. Automata
9. Yukitsuklyashou
10. Hyper Presure
11. Song Of The Second Moon
12. Csikos Post
13. Radiant
14. Summer -Speedy Mix-
15. Destination Unknown
16. Gaussian Blur 3
17. Voodoo People
18. Shining Sky
19. Mute City Remix
20. Kick Your A
21. Blue Noah
22. Gradeus
23. Lawn Wake IV
24. End Night
25. Shihen
26. Fast Asleep
27. Camel
28. Blue Army
29. Guitar Sounds
30. Szerencsetlen
31. K8107
32. Ark
33. Rottel-Da-Station
34. Puzzle
35. Grocery Escape Plan
36. Midnight Dragon
37. Flesvelka
38. Staring at my Spaceship
39. He's A Radical Rat
40. Arrogant Cobbler
41. Hellhounds On My Trail
42. Strangeprogram
43. Cinnamon Roll
44. World Tour 2004
45. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival
46. Honki Sentai Majirenjaa -MAJI Eurobeat Version-
47. Blue Rose
48. Chik Habit
49. Pants
50. Jamais Deux
51. Red Wings Over Baron
52. ==Planet KARMA==
The Purchased Genre
When I look at the prices of the songs in this genre, I am disgusted at the lack of care given to thinking about these prices being on the whim of random thought.
I am purposing we either make the prices for the difficulty static (as in the difficulty 1-13 determines the price) or at least some method is put here, because as it stands, it’s – to be frank – stupid.
TL;DR: Why the world would I pay 1000 for an 11 (AIM Anthem) and 10,000 for a 12 (Holy Orders.)
Important: Know that these songs would be moved to Legacy where they belong.
1. Aim Anthem
2. Silence
3. Party 4 U V2 (Holy Nite Remix)
Also important: The following songs should be added to the genre, but are not included in the above song count.
1. MaxX Forever (2,006 credits)
2. 2008 (2,008 credits)
Note: The credit counts for these charts being purchased is kept the same from being moved from Secret. These charts are special and thus do not abide by the plans I recommend.
Plan A: Static Price
This list is in the following format:
Difficulty. Credit Price for song of this difficulty (Number of songs on this range)
1. 175 (0)
2. 300 (2)
3. 425 (1)
4. 550 (6)
5. 675 (0)
6. 800 (3)
7. 925 (1)
8. 1,000 (5)
9. 1,500 (12)
10. 2,000 (5)
11. 2,500 (8)
12. 3,000 (3)
13. 5,000 (0)
Note: The prices listed here are just a thought. I am not saying USE THIS YOU IDIOTS I’m just throwing my recommendation out. What I am going for is accessibility to how much you’d actually care to play songs of these difficulties. Paying anything more than 200 credits for a level 1 chart seems really stupid to me; but paying 10,000 for ONE 12 also doesn’t make sense to me either. Consistency is usually good, but I really think it might be a little too difficult to assign a price to difficulty.
TL;DR: Not really a fan of this plan, but multiple options for this need to be thrown out.
Plan B: A Thought Out Price
In short there needs to be a method to the pricing. Questions like this should not arise “Why is field of Snow [Light] 100 credits and is a difficulty 4, but tower is a difficulty 2 and costs 200?” Just little fallacies in pricing that I noticed and always found odd.
TL;DR: Prices shouldn’t be THAT random, but are still random song pending.
The Legacy Genre
I have said this at least three times in the suggestions thread. I’ll gladly pitch it one more time while you’re here.
Why in the living world do Legacy songs appear in both the Token level ranks, AND the Public level ranks. For the love of god pick one and keep them there. If you ask me: I prefer the token ranks. These charts can’t be taken seriously anymore, and they’re kept in the game for nostalgia. Not because these charts are actually good. (Come on the arrows are all blue, one song has an issue in being able to read it because of a video, for the love of god fix this please.)
In short:
1. Secret Genre needs a reorder by difficulty.
2. Songs with BNS (Blue Note Syndrome) should be finished being removed from the genres of Secret and Purchased into the Legacy Genre.
3. Purchased Genre needs a way to decide the prices of songs. I suggested two options.
4. Fix the level ranks for Legacy Genre charts.
5. Songs Of The Year should be moved to Purchased and priced the same as the credits to play them in Secret were previous.
Final statement
I do not know how long it would take to change all of this; but I'd like to offer that if I can help anymore on these issues, I'd love to try helping out. Thank you everyone for your attention. Even if you skipped to the "In short" section.
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