Would you rather your daughter be a "tomboy" or your son be a "sissy".

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  • Rubin0
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2006
    • 1276

    #1

    Would you rather your daughter be a "tomboy" or your son be a "sissy".

    This was kind of inspired by the "Is being gay wrong" topic. I've taken a few gender classes and through general observations it seems to me that a masculine woman is much less stigmatized than a feminine man. I think the obvious answer for most people would be that they would prefer a tomboy for a daughter, but I'm not sure many people have wondered why.

    What do you think is stranger: Girl playing with a fire truck or a boy playing with a Barbie doll? Why?


    Any thoughts?

    *Edit* Also, I want to point out that I don't use the word "sissy" in every day life, but just thought I would use the derogatory word used for feminine men to make the post eye catching.
    Last edited by Rubin0; 10-28-2010, 03:39 PM.
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  • Izzy
    Snek
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2003
    • 9195

    #2
    Re: Would you rather your daughter be a "tomboy" or your son be a "sissy".

    The only reason girls like crap like barbie dolls is because of social expectations and the media. I'm sorry but girly girls are just idiots that fell into a trap of expectation. I think the same can be said about really masculine men. So my answer is both are fine. Either of those things imply that the child is thinking for themselves and I support that.

    Not that a really girly girl couldn't have decided she really did like what people consider to be girly, but the more and more extreme you get the less likely I believe it is. So it kind of turns into a bell curve. All of the people in the middle are fine.

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    • Rubin0
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2006
      • 1276

      #3
      Re: Would you rather your daughter be a "tomboy" or your son be a "sissy".

      I just went to go hit the "like" button and realized I wasn't on facebook.
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      • BabyViperx3
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2008
        • 444

        #4
        Re: Would you rather your daughter be a "tomboy" or your son be a "sissy".

        My daughter plays with toy cars & what not. She's growing up around my little nephew who's 4. It's kind of a tough question. I wouldn't mind raising both, but I seem to lean more towards a boy who's a sissy. Idno why. But as for the question, I don't feel either is odd.






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        • phe0nixblade
          Praise the sun mofo
          • Sep 2005
          • 4281

          #5
          Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

          I think a boy being sissy is odd, I would much rather have a daughter be tomboyish.

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          • 8 Hour Whore
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            • Oct 2006
            • 2324

            #6
            Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

            Tomboy for a girl..
            Reason being.. Every parent worries about their children. When they are more fit to support themselves it's a bit of a lift.. Plus Emotional attachments aren't as strong when letting go.
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            • funmonkey54
              The Chill Keeper
              • Oct 2007
              • 4127

              #7
              Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

              Seeing as how society is more accepting of tomboy girls and a tomboy girl is going to get less harassment about their sexuality than an effeminate male, I'll take a tomboy girl for my child's sake.

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              • BethanyBangs
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                • Oct 2010
                • 730

                #8
                Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

                Tomboy. Because i was one. and still am. just my looks changed. xD
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                • xealix
                  One Among The Fence
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 680

                  #9
                  Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

                  Tomboy for previously stated reasons.

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                  • who_cares973
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 15407

                    #10
                    Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

                    agree with izzy

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                    • D!LL
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 192

                      #11
                      Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

                      Originally posted by Izzy
                      The only reason girls like crap like barbie dolls is because of social expectations and the media. I'm sorry but girly girls are just idiots that fell into a trap of expectation. I think the same can be said about really masculine men. So my answer is both are fine. Either of those things imply that the child is thinking for themselves and I support that.

                      Not that a really girly girl couldn't have decided she really did like what people consider to be girly, but the more and more extreme you get the less likely I believe it is. So it kind of turns into a bell curve. All of the people in the middle are fine.
                      Interesting point brought up in this thread I think. -- I agree with Izzy. I wouldn't prefer any over the other because both are just fine and dandy for me. I'd rather my child be what he/she WANTS to be rather than what cultural expectations in society demand of him/her.

                      It's interesting how men acting effeminate is less acceptable than women acting masculine.

                      I think this is because we're both judged by our piers. Men are judged by men, and women by other women. (Generally.) I say this because that's sort of how we're raised. (For the most part). Boys are taught how to be a man by their fathers and girls are taught how to be a woman by their mothers. and of course it's not this black and white, but this is a majority in how our society has developed as whole.

                      Men are, in my opinion, a little less open minded when it comes to sexuality, and because of this it reflects on society's acceptance of either a tomboy or a girlyboy.
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                      • rushyrulz
                        Digital Dancing!
                        FFR Simfile Author
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                        • Feb 2006
                        • 12985

                        #12
                        Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

                        I agree with fm54. Society is more accepting of a tomboy than a sissy, but I wouldn't mind either.


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                        • Cavernio
                          sunshine and rainbows
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1987

                          #13
                          Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

                          Unfortunately I'd probably have to say tomboy girl, but officially, I don't care either way :-p It also seems that people who consider themselves more feminine compared to masculin would say they'd prefer the girly boy.

                          I definitely think there is more of a stigma to being a girly boy, but I don't think its for the reasons Dill said. Its much more of a product of our times than our individual upbringings, or from who judges who. The feminist movement came and went, and from that, it became alright for a woman to be manly. I suspect there is a backlash to that, that men have then developed more 'manly' endeavors, in an attempt to retain their gender identity. (This speaking for north american society as a whole, not about every individual man who is manly.) Even if that is not the case though, men have not gone through any sort of social reformation so that they can be more womanly. The closest thing they seem to have is the gay movement, which definitely makes some men feel like they can be more womanly (think Gay Eye for the Straight Guy show), but again, I think there can be backlash, and its really not a 'men' movement.

                          Your first sentence threw me totally off Izzy, but your point makes sense. (How many video games do you play where you don't get to play dress-up with your character these days? Video games targeted at males let men 'play with barbies' these days.) But I also am much less concerned or even see 'just be yourself' as an issue for my peers...I really think that is an age difference thing...I cannot imagine the stress of having kids, working full-time, studying full-time, without allowing yourself to 'be yourself' so to speak. One has to be responsible and act accordingly so much of the time, that it'd be ludicrous to put on a show or 'try to fit in' during downtime. WHICH brings me to the ultimate point that I disagree with you, at least for an older group of people, although what you say makes sense from what I remember of my school years. Furthermore, I know people who adopt very specific gender roles specifically because they like sex and their lifestyle revolves around it, not for any other reason.

                          This of course opens the whole can of worms about people who feel they need to change their physical gender in order to 'be themselves'. How much of a role does society have on these people? If society were much more 'gender' neutral, if people felt like they didn't have to identify as being a man or a woman, do you think these people would still feel like they're the wrong sex? I suspect society has a large role in this, but I don't know anyone who fits this description to have any sort of personal knowledge either way. I know that a few decades ago, there were more men who felt like they were women but in a man's body, but that in the recent years (possibly due to bias in sampling in the past), the men/woman ration who feel like they are the wrong gender is smaller, something like 1.2.

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                          • Cavernio
                            sunshine and rainbows
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1987

                            #14
                            Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

                            I know, double post, but I'm not sure I'd like having a tomboy girl actually, at least not one who's into sports, seeing as I am completely not a sports fan.

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                            • fido123
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 4245

                              #15
                              Re: Would you rather your daughter be a &quot;tomboy&quot; or your son be a &quot;sissy&quot;.

                              I'd rather have a tomboy than a bitty girl, and a feminine guy than a macho douche-bag. If somebody is being true to themselves, and not just conforming to social norms (and I hate these social norms, as in the personalities), I'll probably get along with them.

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