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  • Goldenwind
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2006
    • 762

    #1

    Would it be fair to call this a 14?

    The following is considered a 14:


    I'm thinking about changing some of the triplets around so they're not so crossovery.
    Would you still consider it a 14 if I did so?

    Stats are 191BPM, 2315 steps (166 jumps) over 6 minutes.
    They say there's a sun in the sky...
  • Azafreak
    Retired
    • Feb 2007
    • 759

    #2
    Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

    hmm...MAYBE 12-13 ( i dont see the whole stepchart ) but its look pretty easy BUT for the time..6 minutes is really really long.
    oh..its newblue

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    • Oni-Paranoia
      No fucks
      • Dec 2006
      • 2440

      #3
      Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

      Originally posted by Azafreak
      hmm...MAYBE 12-13 ( i dont see the whole stepchart ) but its look pretty easy BUT for the time..6 minutes is really really long.
      oh..its newblue
      That is nowhere near a fu*king 12 how stupid can you be!?

      Easy-Mid 14

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      • Azafreak
        Retired
        • Feb 2007
        • 759

        #4
        Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

        Originally posted by Oni-Paranoia
        That is nowhere near a fu*king 12 how stupid can you be!?

        Easy-Mid 14
        i knew some 12 that was really fcking harder than this.

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        • Izzy
          Snek
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2003
          • 9195

          #5
          Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

          There isn't really a definite difficulty chart. There is no way to accurately judge it to everyones likings.

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          • smartdude1212
            2 is poo
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Sep 2005
            • 6687

            #6
            Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

            then call it a 15 8)

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            • Emo_Saur_
              FFR Veteran
              • Feb 2007
              • 2952

              #7
              Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

              Originally posted by smartdude1212
              then call it a 15 8)
              Why not make it a 4? Piss people off big time.
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              • ~Zero~
                FFR Veteran
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Nov 2006
                • 1556

                #8
                Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

                Originally posted by Izzy
                There isn't really a definite difficulty chart. There is no way to accurately judge it to everyones likings.
                This is true, but i think everyone judges difficulty based on the original itg charts. So if a file is harder than Pandy its 13> etc... Even though some people may not be able to beat Pandy its still a good indicator of whats "considered" a 13 by the Roxor Company lol.


                Originally posted by Xiaounlimited
                More like Tier ~0~

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                • TC_Halogen
                  Rhythm game specialist.
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 19376

                  #9
                  Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

                  Originally posted by Izzy
                  There isn't really a definite difficulty chart. There is no way to accurately judge it to everyones likings.
                  Originally posted by Azafreak
                  i knew some 12 that was really fcking harder than this.
                  Play pad. Bye.

                  It's a 14.

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                  • Goldenwind
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 762

                    #10
                    Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

                    It's a 14 as is. I'm pretty solid on that.
                    I too have seen 12s that are harder than this. It's those charts that are misrated.

                    Uber Rave is a good example of something potentially misrated. Sure, the beginning's easy, but people will pass 13s long before they can finish that chart. Holy Orders is rated 11, but should be 14, maybe 15 (I don't play it much, so I can't say, but I know it's 14 or over).

                    If I revised the crossovers in Industrial Strength, I'd wonder if it'd be worth calling a 14 anymore. A 13 at lowest. I really like it, as it pushes me just to complete, but is good enough that I can actually complete it every time.

                    The crossovers bug me, but I don't want to make it lose its "oomph" by doing so.

                    And what Halogen was saying is right. Pad is different from keyboard, with the MASSIVE difference being endurance. I could probably get over 10,000 combo no problem doing 170BPM 16ths on keyboard, solid. Call it maybe a 13? Sounds fine. It's not that fast, really.

                    But doing that on pad? HAHA. I couldn't even give it a proper rating, as I can't play charts that hard. 16? 17? I dunno.

                    In songs like Industrial Strength, stamina is a very limiting factor. Yeah, sure, you can combo 190BPM 16th streams, but can you keep it up, on-and-off, for 6 minutes?

                    14.
                    Last edited by Goldenwind; 09-14-2009, 06:58 PM.
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                    • A2P
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 3127

                      #11
                      Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

                      Definitely a 14 but if it were shorter it would probably be a low-mid 13

                      just sayin. ps if thats you playing really nice score. keep it up

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                      • Oni-Paranoia
                        No fucks
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 2440

                        #12
                        Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

                        Honestly, if you saw a song rated a 12 and it was really really hard, either it is..

                        A. Index-able KB file
                        B. Stepper can't rate files
                        C. A random guess before trying the song

                        Overall, players such as me and Halogen could call nearly any difficulty up to about 16 without a doubt (even Zero can and he doesn't play pad).

                        P.s. Izzy, you're an idiot

                        Originally posted by Emo_Saur_
                        Why not make it a 4? Piss people off big time.
                        Yea because everyone wouldn't notice the 2200 step count when any legit 4 doesn't have more than 200 steps in it.. or the fact that it's under expert and if the theme on there machine was good, they would see the time length of 6 mins.

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                        • Goldenwind
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 762

                          #13
                          Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

                          Originally posted by A2P
                          Definitely a 14 but if it were shorter it would probably be a low-mid 13

                          just sayin. ps if thats you playing really nice score. keep it up
                          While I can get ~85% on it, that's not me, sadly.
                          Thanks, though!
                          They say there's a sun in the sky...

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                          • Munsie
                            FFR Player
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 322

                            #14
                            Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

                            Just watched the vid, looks like a pretty fucen hard chart.

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                            • dood gone krazee
                              RATOOOOOOOOO
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • May 2007
                              • 1939

                              #15
                              Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

                              Just the fact that you can do that at all on pad is amazing to me.
                              -4th Official Tournament Expert Divison Champion-

                              Originally posted by Sir_Thomas
                              Dood... you done gone got yourself krazee.
                              Originally posted by robertsona
                              I hear back in 12 AD Jesus Himself sent an FGO to Tass and it got a 9 by JX

                              "[++] 9/10
                              Very good file but not japanese enough ps hi jesus"

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