Would it be fair to call this a 14?

[icontrolyourworld]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

someone should clarify the foot ratings for each of the most know scales

DCP scale
DDR scale
FFR scale
ITG scale
and so on, with something we can all relate to like death piano as a 15 footer on the dcp scale or something.

[Ghakimx]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

It's long, it's got severe BPM changes, mines, very quick steps, what's not 14+ about it?

There isn't really a definite difficulty chart.

Go full combo it.

[DaRkLoTuS666]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

Definately a 14

[flash dualist]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

yeah. It deserves to be a 14.

[Razer_2mb]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

There are lots of parts that go on for an extended period of time that are around 8 or 9 level. It's too inconsistent. I'll admit some parts require a decent amount of stamina to make it through, but that's all the player needs: Stamina. There are breaks in between difficult sections that allow the player to get a breather. The runs are mostly composed of simple patterns.

In my opinion, it could pass off as a 13. The only things backing up it's difficulty are the length of the song and those pretty nasty sections between 3:27 and 4:30. Anyone who frequently plays 13s as regular songs or warm ups isn't going to be too taxed by this, and the stream patterns don't have any curve balls. To me, the crucial element that separates 13s from 14s are complex patterns, but that might be my personal bias from playing PIU where higher difficulties and unusual patterns go hand-in-hand.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

There are lots of parts that go on for an extended period of time that are around 8 or 9 level. It's too inconsistent. I'll admit some parts require a decent amount of stamina to make it through, but that's all the player needs: Stamina. There are breaks in between difficult sections that allow the player to get a breather. The runs are mostly composed of simple patterns.

In my opinion, it could pass off as a 13. The only things backing up it's difficulty are the length of the song and those pretty nasty sections between 3:27 and 4:30. Anyone who frequently plays 13s as regular songs or warm ups isn't going to be too taxed by this, and the stream patterns don't have any curve balls. To me, the crucial element that separates 13s from 14s are complex patterns, but that might be my personal bias from playing PIU where higher difficulties and unusual patterns go hand-in-hand.

Every song has patterns that are around the 1 or 2 level.

For one, you DO NOT base a song off of 3 seconds (excluding bursts).
For two, you take the hardest part and round off everything else in a song.
For three, I consistently pass 13's and this seems a bit rough.

[Razer_2mb]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

Every song has patterns that are around the 1 or 2 level.

For one, you DO NOT base a song off of 3 seconds (excluding bursts).
For two, you take the hardest part and round off everything else in a song.
For three, I consistently pass 13's and this seems a bit rough.

I have rounded off every single factor. Hell, I even watched it again to make sure if I didn't simply forget a few parts. It's a pretty mean minute, which is why I considered it a 13 in the first place. If the streams just continued and didn't give the player a break for an extended period of time, it would be stamina-draining enough to be a 14 in my eyes. I have always considered the hardest stuff to be relentless from the first moment to the last, like Crash Full Version, Xtreme Vook of the War, or LiaDZ2 Full. They don't give you a breather, which is why they're so hard.


I'm sorry, but whenever I think "14", I think of no mercy whatsoever. I would like to think that I'm not being too far fetched since I did admit it was a tiring 13.

[albaneenesk8r]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

Just the fact that you can do that at all on pad is amazing to me.

amazing things happen on the pad o.O

[remedy1502]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

Lol I run into newblue quite a bit :P
I'm gonna steal his pad skills. I suck, I only beat some 12s =(
Mind you, I haven't played ITG in a long time... It's mostly now only when I go to the movies or something =/

[Ghakimx]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

Though if it was a 13, it would be a high 13, wouldn't it?

[Oni-Paranoia]

Re: Would it be fair to call this a 14?

I have rounded off every single factor. Hell, I even watched it again to make sure if I didn't simply forget a few parts. It's a pretty mean minute, which is why I considered it a 13 in the first place. If the streams just continued and didn't give the player a break for an extended period of time, it would be stamina-draining enough to be a 14 in my eyes. I have always considered the hardest stuff to be relentless from the first moment to the last, like Crash Full Version, Xtreme Vook of the War, or LiaDZ2 Full. They don't give you a breather, which is why they're so hard.


I'm sorry, but whenever I think "14", I think of no mercy whatsoever. I would like to think that I'm not being too far fetched since I did admit it was a tiring 13.

You just named PIU songs. PIU and ITG have different scales.

Also, 14 doesn't mean "no mercy". Songs like Dash Hopes (actual 15) and Sacred (14 - rynkers sucky steps).. Those both are songs that have parts where you can breathe, and others which are just hard to hit consistently.

Don't look at something from what "you" think. "You" see 14s as no mercy where you need to look upon how hard the song actually is. Spots with no steps don't defeat spots with hard patterns.

Compare that 6 minute file to any of the 3 "official" 13's and go from there at first.

Though if it was a 13, it would be a high 13, wouldn't it?

It's not a 13.

Though it's funny because people that are use to playing hard charts only forget how to rate easier ones. (like how 'Above The Winter Moonlight' was rated a 13 when clearly it's a 14 though it may not look like it when compared to all other DF files).