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  • sarahxjane
    FFR Veteran
    • Aug 2005
    • 2109
    #1

    8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

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    If this kid really did kill his father and another man, it really shows how crappy the world has become.

    I want to know what proof there was that he did in fact pull the trigger on both men.
    Maybe his father and this other man were having a confrontation and his father was killed. Perhaps the kid killed the other man.

    Who can say that the kid didn't just witness the entire ordeal, taking no part in it whatsoever.

    I sure as hell am not defending the kid if he did it. I am just looking at it from all possible angles.

    Also, who in their right mind could teach a child to use a firearm?
    Nothing like instilling the fact into your child that killing is a sport.

    I mean, you hear of children finding their parents hand guns and accidentally killing their siblings.

    Premeditated murder though?





    What do you think?
    Last edited by sarahxjane; 11-10-2008, 02:35 AM. Reason: Removed article from post
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    • rzr
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      • Oct 2007
      • 7608
      #2
      Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

      It's kind of annoying for you to quote it and link it, just takes me longer to get to the bottom of the page. Anyway, I already read this. What sucks it that Arizona law states anyone 8 and up can be tried for that crime. So, he will be.

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        • Temote
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          • Jun 2007
          • 748
          #3
          Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

          I don't really know how they can just go up and say "premeditated" like that. Doesn't premeditated mean it was a 'planned out in advance' killing? The article itself, also, makes it sound more like they're suspecting him for not contacting them immediately as opposed to having any kind of actual evidence that yes he did it. "Did not act on the spur of the moment" was the wording that they used.

          But as far as teaching kids that young to use a gun, I think it's common in areas where people hunt often, or if people are pro-gun use. There was another event recently where an eight year old accidentally killed himself at a gun fair when his dad let him hold and fire an uzi.

          EDIT: If I came off sounding like an idiot at all, sorry. I'm going to get some sleep and see if I can't word this better when I wake up.
          Last edited by Temote; 11-10-2008, 04:55 AM.

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            • travman301
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              • Mar 2004
              • 2641
              #4
              Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

              "In a sign of the emotional and legal complexities of the case, police are pushing to have the boy tried as an adult even as they investigate possible abuse, Melnick said."

              Are you ****ing kidding me? He is only 8 years old.

              The article also says that no lawyer or parent was present during the interrogation, and it is even possible that he wasn't read his rights.

              Even if he was, it would be far too complicated and intimidating for an 8 year old to comprehend. The confession can easily be thrown out under false pretenses.

              Originally posted by KgZ
              The police wouldn't have even considered the boy had committed the killing without strong disputable evidence.
              The video in the link says there's no physical evidence linking him to the crime. There was probably very strong circumstantial evidence, but that isn't as important as physical evidence.

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                • funmonkey54
                  The Chill Keeper
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4127
                  #5
                  Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                  I seriously don't think the child has the ability to think at a high enough level for 2 counts of premeditated murder.

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                    • Nyokou
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                      • Apr 2005
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                      #6
                      Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                      Teaching a child to kill isn't news to Africans.

                      If it happens in other countries, why would it not happen here?
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                        • Rubin0
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                          • Jun 2006
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                          #7
                          Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                          An 8 year old knows the difference between right and wrong. The kid probably didn't sit down and calculate his plan in detail, but the fact is if he pointed his gun at these two people and fired, then he is guilty. Unless the kid was abused or had some sort of earlier trauma in his life, I'm assuming he has some serious psychological problems....actually either way he has problems. Either way, his life will never be normal again.
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                            • who_cares973
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                              • Aug 2006
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                              #8
                              Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                              guns dont kill people violent video games kill people

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                                • Adamaja456
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                                  • Dec 2006
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                                  Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                                  probably played too much GTA
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                                    • Sh4d0wD3v1L
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                                      • Jan 2005
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                                      Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                                      This is ridiculous.

                                      First off, they have enough issues trying some 15-16 year olds as adults, this kid is 8. I highly doubt the fact that this boy premeditated the murder if he did it at all. Most 8 year olds can't get away from their parents for all too long, nonetheless kill one of them. I think it's obscene to believe he purposely killed them.

                                      On top of that, they "got a confession", but if they "didn't inform him of his rights" and he was questioned "without representation from a parent or attorney", that confession would probably be thrown out.

                                      tl;dr: This is the most ridiculous case ever.
                                      Funny stuff goes in this area right?

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                                        • OrganisM
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                                          • Oct 2006
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                                          #11
                                          Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                                          Younger folks don't get nearly enough credit for their cognitive abilities. I won't argue it either way, but to insinuate that an eight year-old is incapable of cruelty or violence seems a stretch.
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                                            • Nyokou
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                                              • Apr 2005
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                                              #12
                                              Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                                              Uh yeah, Shadow, you were a pretty stupid 8-year-old kid then.

                                              If he is found guilty for the murders then I wouldn't be surprised.
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                                                • Sh4d0wD3v1L
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                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                  • 693
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                                                  Never said that I was all that intelligent at 8, nor that I am now, but I know a lot of kids that at 8 were /very/ attached to their parents and have trouble getting away.
                                                  Funny stuff goes in this area right?

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                                                    • Nyokou
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                                                      • Apr 2005
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                                                      #14
                                                      Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                                                      Yeah, "a lot", which isn't the same as "all".
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                                                        • OrganisM
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                                                          • Oct 2006
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                                                          #15
                                                          Re: 8-Year-Old Boy Charged In Two Killings

                                                          Originally posted by Sh4d0wD3v1L
                                                          Never said that I was all that intelligent at 8, nor that I am now, but I know a lot of kids that at 8 were /very/ attached to their parents and have trouble getting away.
                                                          8 year olds, dependent on their parents? NO WAI

                                                          And, if he killed them, of course he should be found guilty. The question is how he should be tried and what the repercussions should be. It's hard to make judgment without more information on the case.
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                                                          Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                                                          "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                                                          because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                                                          spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                                                          changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                                                          Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."

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                                                          "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

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