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  • Tyler Reece
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2008
    • 131

    #1

    Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

    Sorry, posted this is the wrong forum, any mod care to move it?

    The newest thread posted stating what ideas could come for the future of FFR, and these are my ideas, a little detailed, but if you support them, or even have ideas to contribute to them, give me your feedback.


    Support Idea #1 : Top donor page.

    This idea is not only contributing to FFR, there was actually two ideas behind this thought. You can donate anything from a penny, to like a thousand dollars. Now you know when you walk in those say free clinics, or drug centers, and on the wall are plaques that show, (DONATED 10K+, DONATED 100K+) Well the idea was thought to be put here, except for FFR term. Every time you donate, you get updated. Each donation of say $1, gets your name thrown in an entry for a huge FFR basket that you could win. And this is just so more people would want to donate, the basket could include
    one free year sub, 1 t-shirt, 1 sticker, and a free genre purchase
    (read more about genre purchase on idea #2)

    What the page should look like, is say Robot1 donates $9 to FFR, and Robot2 donates $12.50.

    The page set up as
    Donated < $10.
    Robot1
    Donated > $10
    Robot2

    Something along those lines, you get the idea. Back to the point. Every $1 donated got a name in a monthly drawing, and because subscriptions don't cost anything (being that I use vB aswell) you don't lose money, unless you want to count the 1 more person that doesn't get to view those unwanted ads. Every month, your hoping to look at a profit, and your only giving away 12 packages a year, on top of the random contests, and etc around FFR, it could be a good idea. Hope I explained this good enough.


    Support Idea #2 : Special Genres

    It's already been brought up in the post, and been mentioned by mods.
    "if they can buy downloadable songs on rockband/gh series, why not here" is asked, and it's very true, but on the other hand of xbox users compared to ffr users beats the site way down, it's not a bad idea at all. The genres however should be a little more compact and making a new genre called "special" or w/e, and then each pack you buy, gets thrown in a mini section of the special genre. Not to sure, lets hear some feedback.


    Support Idea #3 : Gambling, the FFR way.

    Now its not that good of an idea, maybe because only veteran players will win, but based on all the songs in FFR, you could go into a special room on FFR and be willing to bet "FFR MONEY" against your opponent, and if you win, you get there money, and if not you lose.

    The setup would look like this.

    Buy FFR MONEY, Each $1 is say (1.00c)ffrcredit. And you go into the multiplayer and gamble it on ffr games, but you can accept or deny the challenge from the opponent. So if "Robot1" vs. "Robot2" staked $1 each. Robot1 wins, so it gets $2, Robot2 walks away with nothing.

    Theres 2 ways to do this, 1 could be just to be able to cash out by purchasing subscriptions for yourself, others, t-shirts, or stickers.

    The other idea was being able to be cashed out back to paypal, or even checks in the mail. The problem with this is that where does FFR profit? Here would be my idea to solve this.

    I based this idea of a poker system.

    Above I stated how "robot1 & robot2" staked $1 each where winner recieved $2. BUT if you were to make the set price say $1.00 +0.20 to join. Winner receives $2, FFR just made $.40 cents profit, and winner would get .80 profit.

    It's just an idea, doesn't necessarily have to be based on playing FFR in general, anything is fair game, from the prochat games, or maybe even other multiplayer options in the future.


    Support Idea #4 : SMS Pay by mobile feature.

    I cannot at all say I support this being a victim of this type of feature.

    You will have greedy kids asking to borrow your phone so they can do this, activate code comes in, they submit it, you get charged, they delete it, and you don't know til the bill comes in. Then, you either pay for it, or fight it, which in my case I did, and the company that charges you gets a chargeback, in most cases doesn't really matter, the phone company will pay for it, but this idea is very stupid. I mean if you have a cell phone, then you must have a credit/debit card, bank account, or a paypal... c'mon..

    But if it were to become the feature, maybe just updates and alerts, just get charged for messages, idk how this would work to ffr's advantage, but it would be -1 support for me, but it doesn't hurt to see what the public thinks.


    Support Idea #5 : Purchase more credits.

    In game credits, due to the gambling hall, everyone is losing their credits, so why not be able to purchase more? I mean we all know we are probably going to gamble it away again anyway... but most of us just want our credits back to play our secret songs, or maybe buy the new purchased songs because we blew ours and can't help it. Idk, it seems like a plausible idea.
    EDIT: sorry i didn't realize that is what the post ment on the homepage, I thought it ment you could pay to have your name somewhere on the site credits page, lawl. but goes hand in hand with above idea for top donors page, either way... WE NEED MORE CREDITS GRAWR!



    Support Idea #6 : HORSE RACING!

    GENIUS! TAKE HORSES, MAKE FFR USERS BET ON WHICH WILL WIN, RIG THE MATCH, PROFIT!



    Support Idea #7 : Customizable Skins.

    There was a thread supporting different skins for FFR, and I 100% support this, but maybe a payable feature would make it worthwhile if they were actually good?
    I mean I love playing FFR, and the theme may never get old, but change doesn't look to bad either, and paying for different skins, and maybe for more customizable mods.


    Support Idea #8 : Upload own songs/simfiles to game.

    You can play them on R2, or w/e, but what if we pay to have our ****ty files in the game? And be able to play them with people. I don't know where I could go with this, the idea should more be like "bribe to have simfile in game" but the general idea is, you pay to have your sim in the game, it wouldn't count towards the average rank, it would be like another "token" rank, except any user can play your song when you upload it, a special genre would be placed in, and idk, that's a way advanced thought, but Its an idea... throw some addons to this.

    FFR NEEDS PROFIT, but I read the following to become a success.
    How to Profit!:
    1. Deciding on something to do.
    2. Jump up and down, while running around in circles.
    3. Try to beat your parents at an argument
    4. Pick An Hero to admire
    5. Repeat step 5
    6. ????
    7. PROFIT!!! (or not, in this case)


    That's all I have for now, Feedback?
    Last edited by Tyler Reece; 08-18-2008, 11:34 PM.
  • tangomango
    FFR Player
    • May 2007
    • 1134

    #2
    Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

    Idea #5: If I remember correctly, the admins don't like the idea of purchasing credits with money.

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    • Tyler Reece
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2008
      • 131

      #3
      Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

      Originally posted by tangomango
      Idea #5: If I remember correctly, the admins don't like the idea of purchasing credits with money.
      But, there would be more features in FFR to lose the credits anyway, so the population of credits would still be the same.

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      • blindreper1179
        Vice President Of TGB
        • Jun 2006
        • 5900

        #4
        Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

        i don't like the thing with the phone. if there's a paypal thing on the side with it, that'll work. and money for credits is a good idea, in my opinion.
        Originally posted by thesunfan
        absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
        Originally posted by choof
        It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
        Originally posted by choof
        whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
        Originally posted by Celirra
        I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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        • Tyler Reece
          FFR Player
          • Jul 2008
          • 131

          #5
          Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

          Originally posted by blindreper1179
          i don't like the thing with the phone. if there's a paypal thing on the side with it, that'll work. and money for credits is a good idea, in my opinion.
          My opinion is, if you have a phone, chances are you have a Card or Paypal.

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          • Zageron
            Zageron E. Tazaterra
            FFR Administrator
            • Apr 2007
            • 6592

            #6
            Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

            1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8.

            Are all amazing ideas. I love them! You have my vote for those.

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            • blindreper1179
              Vice President Of TGB
              • Jun 2006
              • 5900

              #7
              Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

              well yeah. but i don't have a phone and have a paypal/credit card. if you can get the tokens(like dendrite V2) with either phone or paypal, i like the idea.
              Originally posted by thesunfan
              absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
              Originally posted by choof
              It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
              Originally posted by choof
              whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
              Originally posted by Celirra
              I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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              • Tyler Reece
                FFR Player
                • Jul 2008
                • 131

                #8
                Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

                Originally posted by Zageron
                1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8.

                Are all amazing ideas. I love them! You have my vote for those.
                Aww, you don't support the Horse Racing!?? It's just like the gambling hall, you will always lose.

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                • tangomango
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 1134

                  #9
                  Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

                  Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                  lump destroyed rubix... lol. anyway... no, we are now allowing the direct sale of credits. and will not take kindly to someone trying to do it outside of the site either, should we find out about it.
                  He made a typo, but I don't think that the admins will like that idea. I think that they would rather you earn credits from FFR, competitions than just buying it. It kind of defeats the purpose of FFR. It's an OK idea though.

                  Also, #8 doesn't sound too great. Even if it doesn't count towards rank and such, I'd rather not have them in the game. It just takes up space on the server and frankly, I don't think that many people would submit.

                  EDIT: I like all the other suggestions by the way =)
                  Last edited by tangomango; 08-19-2008, 12:21 AM.

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                  • -Yukari-
                    FFR Player
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 930

                    #10
                    Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

                    You know what's funny is that if you guys read the front page you'd see that Synthlight actually suggested that himself.

                    Originally posted by Synthlight
                    #3 FFR Credit sales? The thought of it kind of freaks me out but this could be an option
                    Granted, many people posted that they hated this idea in response, it's still something they're considering.
                    Originally posted by ryanisadouche
                    So anyways i was thinking, what if a single miss didn't stop your combo? Instead, your combo kept going until 2 consecutive misses were made. I think this would provide a more realistic ranking system, and eliminate a lot of mashing.

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                    • Tyler Reece
                      FFR Player
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 131

                      #11
                      Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

                      Originally posted by -Yukari-
                      You know what's funny is that if you guys read the front page you'd see that Synthlight actually suggested that himself.

                      Granted, many people posted that they hated this idea in response, it's still something they're considering.
                      When you are putting out so much money, the more the site expands, the harder it is to upkeep it.

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                      • blindreper1179
                        Vice President Of TGB
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 5900

                        #12
                        Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

                        I like it, so IT should at LEAST be an option.
                        Originally posted by thesunfan
                        absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
                        Originally posted by choof
                        It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
                        Originally posted by choof
                        whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
                        Originally posted by Celirra
                        I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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                        • MalDON
                          Retired Staff
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 619

                          #13
                          Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

                          Can't have any form of gambling. The credit gambling is probably the only form we will have.

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                          • iluswirl
                            Clueless & Comfortable
                            • May 2007
                            • 462

                            #14
                            Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

                            In regard to #4, the admin could set it up so that rather than you texting something to the database, you could enter your number somewhere (optional choice on the register page?) and then re-wire it so that when/where you want a message, ffr will send you one.

                            And I posted in the thread that you could pretty much do like a mobile thread subscription.. which could be kinda like facebook mobile (in content, not in use) where you could get a text about a reply, and either send a new message back, unsubscribe from the thread, or stop from getting mobile messages altogether. I'm not sure if that would work, but I don't see why not.

                            And in regards to the gambling.. It's illegal. You can't technically do anything like that unless you ban all of the <18 users from it. Which, honestly, is the majority of the site.

                            EDIT: Ninja'd by Mal. But I elaborated a little more

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                            • Tyler Reece
                              FFR Player
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 131

                              #15
                              Re: Money-Making Ideas for FFR.

                              Originally posted by MalDON
                              Can't have any form of gambling. The credit gambling is probably the only form we will have.
                              Well, than an option would be more like not cashing back, but when you subscribe, you can get some kind of FFR credit to gamble, and the more you have, you can trade for merchandise, or to extend your subscription? Aslong as your not receiving money, would it still be illegal?

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