cooperative FFR

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This idea makes me salivate. I don't know if it would ever happen, but if it did, I'd tie my friends to their computer chairs.

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that would be so much fun to play when my friend comes over. Instead of switching every song, we can just play a song together!

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I've always thought this would be a great idea. It seems possible with the multiplayer engine, the staff would just need to either find a way to apply two different stepfiles to the one song or separate one stepfile into two streams. Also the question of how to store the scores would be interesting. I would follow the multiplayer standard and have its own area, but I think that's just for display purposes. The trouble is that the co-op files would have to be completely new songs because you couldn't compare a player's co-op score to a score playing on his own. Maybe if you took the joint score and treated it as a single score and applied it to both players that would work, but that closes the door on making co-op files twice as hard as Death Piano because two people are playing at once. If it were me, I'd make completely new files and follow, say, guitar hero as closely as possible, meaning co-op scores would be completely separate from regular scores.

Either way it would be a beast to get working, but I'd absolutely love it. Opens the doors for co-op tournaments too which would be sweet.

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omg All_That_Chaz i have that game from your avatar on my Nintendo its called punch-out with a picture of mike tyson on the cover lol

i punch that drunk Russian in the belly..

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I dont like the idea, personally. I like it the way mp is now. Because what if you say AAA a FMO and get oni. Well with co op it wouldint count because it would be for co op and not for sp.

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i dont see how any current song could be played in this cooperative mode because you would need specifically designed co-op charts so i dont see any oni problem

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It would be an individual game with individual stats etc...

There would be 1.5 million*1.4999 million possible user-name pairs to rank.

PS. FFR nearly has 1.5 mill members. I remember when we hit a million, how long ago was that?

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agreed, should definately be implemented

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it would need completely unique charts... doubles charts. it's something that we can consider for 3rd style, but it would definitely not be an initial release type thing.... also, the logistics of it would be pretty rough. plus, scoring would be wonky. Since, say, Rubix and Laggy could play together and get Rank 1. Then Rubix and Sprite could play and get rank 2... then Rubix and Darkshark, rank 3. Then Laggy and Darkshark, rank 4. etc etc etc.

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Uh...so in general, is this possible?

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whats wrong with that? thats exactly the co op spirit will lead to entertaining ranks and outcomes with constant room for improvement and endless pair options

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Wouldn't it make more sense to have separate scores for each person's side of the chart? So if I was playing and AAA'd my side and my partner gets 5 billion misses, it wouldn't affect my rank 1 score at all.

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On scoring, just alphabetize the names to stop duplicates from showing up (So you don't have a score for Rubix/Laggy and Laggy/Rubix), then the sql query would just look for scores in which your username was one of the two if you want to look at your stats. Of course it's going to lead to a different high score for every possible combination that plays the song, but that really can't be helped.

I suppose one way you could limit the number of scores that show up would be to create some sort of UI where the user chooses five or so users that he can record co-op scores with, and the others won't be recorded but will just be for fun (which co-op lends itself to anyway). If player 2 is on player 1's list or vice versa, the flag will be set to record the score, otherwise the flag won't be set so don't. Maintainability deserves a mention here. For scores to count, you have to have the user on your list. Does that mean scores should be wiped after you remove that user? I would say no - I don't think it would be horrible to leave scores in the database for pairs that are no longer recording-pairs.

The limitation of the ability to record co-op scores would also be a neat subscriber perk. Like you can have 1 person on your recording list if you're a non-sub but 5 if you subscribe.

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Something like this should be possible, yes. But a long long time away from any kind of implementation. Which would give plenty of time to come up with a reasonable way of recording and displaying high score tables.