The song I want to step is "O Fortuna" by Carl Orff. EVERYONE has heard this song somewhere and I was wondering if I could step it because I think Carl is dead.
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The EU sets their bar for works entering the public domain at being 70 years after the death of the author. Carl Orff died in 1982. You've got a little more waiting to do before you can use it without permission.
If you wanted to try and explain why you wanted to use his music, it seems to me that the best people to contact would be the folk at the Orff-Zentrum München:
Orff-Zentrum München
Staatsinstitut für Forschung und Dokumentation Kaulbachstr. 16
D-80539 München
Tel. +49-89-28 81 05-0
Fax +49-89-28 03 56
eMail: kontakt@orff-zentrum.de
Of course, the real better plan would probably be to find someone's specific performace of O Fortuna, to which they'd obtained rights of performance, and ask -their- permission to reproduce -their- performance of the work. You'll notice that very little of the classical music on FFR has just the original composer as the listed artist.Last edited by devonin; 05-6-2008, 01:44 PM. -
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I believe copyrights for any song - including classical songs - is 17 years. Find how long ago the song was made, if its 17 years I'm pretty sure you're good.-4th Official Tournament Expert Divison Champion-
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you're quite wrong on that dood. public domain in the US is 1923. and that is based off of when it is composed, not when the artist died. Carmina Burana is from 1936.
but, we tend to be lax on original permissions when a remix is used. so if you can find a remix of the song (of which i know there are multiple).... only need permission from the remixer.RIPComment
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Ahh, alright. Sorry haa.
Heard that somewhere, so I thought that was how it worked.-4th Official Tournament Expert Divison Champion-
Originally posted by Sir_ThomasOriginally posted by robertsonaComment
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Also, Orff is German, his work is protected under their copyright law not the US law. And it seems that the EU as a whole is trying to centralize their laws, and have settled on Death+70 years.
Also American Law is kinda fun and not very straightforward.
Anything published before 1923 is now public domain.
Anything published after 1978 is good until author's death + 70 years.
Anything published between 1923 and 1978 had to have an extension manually filed in its 28th year (If that year was before 1992) in which case it would get death + 70 years.
Anything published between 1923 and 1978 whose 28th year was after 1992 (1964-1978) was automatically extended to death+70, anything published between 1923 and 1978 whose 28th year was before 1992 (1923-1964) was either manually filed, in which case death+70 or wasn't manually filed, in which case they are now public domain.Last edited by devonin; 05-6-2008, 02:11 PM.Comment
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pretty sure it's 1923, not 1928?... other than that... i just assume it's copyrighted if it's after 1923.RIPComment
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Yeah, '23 my bad.
But yes, it's summed up as
"Everything before '23 is good. Anything after '78 is no good. Some amount of the things between '23 and '78 are fine, but since you have to manually check into each and every one of them, it's probably best to just assume you're going to have to ask"
Edit: This tempts me to make a more exhaustive look into the copyright laws of various places in the world, and make a sticky for this forum basically saying "Here are the cases in which you don't have to ask permission"Comment
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Here's a good list of free music under public domain and saved as ogg format (because it's a free open source type of codec) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sound/list and then you could convert that to mp3 and not have to worry about permission, but the songs usually are not as good as buying a cd from a professional orchestra performing the song.
edit: just fyi, any music from the U.S. Government is under public domain.Last edited by dean_machine; 05-6-2008, 02:44 PM.
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very cool link dean... that will likely be helpful. in addition to our pdmusic.org permission and the permissions i've gotten from classicalarchive.comRIPComment
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You could also re create the song yourself. That could be good.
P.S. To avoid confusion, you could get a MIDI and edit it in FL Studio or any other MIDI editing device and go from there. It should take you 1hr-2hrs topsLast edited by UnkownMan; 05-6-2008, 03:56 PM.We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams.Originally posted by Choofers
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post something useful or gtfo. not everyone knows instruments or how to play them. a huge portion of classical songs are above almost everyone's skill levels here. it takes a long time to recreate a song, and no one is willing to do that for a freaking stepfile. and i know you are going to use this to say "OH BUT I"M SOOOOO GOOD AT PLAYING WHATEVER" because that's what you did in the Piano Etude PDF thread.
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You do realize that I'm going to ignore you flame request and bring this thread back on topic. Your post was unneeded.
Anyway, You could use FL Studio with a MIDI of the song. Its really easy. Or you could make the file but upload it to the simfile database. That what I would do. You can make a techno remix.
We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams.Originally posted by Choofers
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Originally posted by Moogle-masterOriginally posted by FishFishRevolutionComment
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