Top 100 avg rank

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I don't know but I say that if you badly want to have it, go with the Blue Team and subscribe!

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sure thats always an option
just ill have to pay like double because of mail tax and stuff

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Cool.

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GoodJob AAAing Balloon Fever like 1 minute ago :}

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I'm all for subscribers getting extra features, but they have had this for ages. And I also think the Overall Rank should be based on this. Surely Average Rank is a much better indication of skill than Grand Total points.

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What do you mean "overall rank should be based on this"?

You have an average rank, based on your average score across all songs
You have a overal rank, based on your total score on all songs played

So you want the preferred one (thus, the one displayed in more places) to be your average rank? Or your rank among all users sorted by average rank?

I mean, I have these stats:

Overall rank: 1828
Average Rank: 2124
Ranking by average rank: 646

and its the 646 that you both want to see displayed publically to players, and replacing all the current instances of overall rank?

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I believe that is what he means

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well really no matter what you do there will always be kickass players with bad stats and crappy whores with good stats so i think just play the game and have fun =P

although i admit more stats are always cool. its fun to think, 1.4mil accounts and my name is right there in the top 1000 or 100 or w/e you like. i go through random periods of time where im just like " i am gonna whore this lvl up for two weeks" or somethin.

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I personally don't think that it's necessary. There's a lot of people who don't even work on improving their average ranks too much because they'd rather just spend time whoring just a few songs. Thus, they may be amazing at a few songs but their average level ranks won't be so great. Often times you can determine how good one normally is by taking a ratio of their games played to their overall rank.

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i once heard of a guy so good at ffr to the point he never even bothers to play the game


one day ill be that good

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Yes devonin that's what I meant. I mean we already rank regionally by average rank, why not globally?

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I don't think being good at FFR is based on one thing. I think there is more to be said for the players that actually sit through every song and AAA them (or close). If people don't care about their average ranks, then it's their loss, their choice on ignoring something shouldn't affect the benefits that the players who actually play all the songs should be entitled to.

And the ratio thing sucks, I sat and whored EHHS for 8 hours and got nearly 2 million points per game. But EHHS is For Masters Only and it beats EVERY level in terms of score efficiency. So, by your standards, I am better at FFR by whoring one For Masters Only song and never AAAing it once (but got a huge score-to-games-played ratio) than somebody who AAAed a For Guru's Only song like One Minute Waltz (but has a crappy score-to-games-played ratio)? Doesn't work.

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The only real way to conclusively determine someone being objectively better than someone else (assuming they were close enough in skill to need such a set of tests) would likely be to give both of them some huge span of time to play every single song as much as they wanted until they got a "best" score, and then compare them all.

Average rank doesn't work because some people simply choose not to whore every song to get a high ranking.

Overall rank doesn't work because someone can play an easy but high scoring song repeatedly.

A ratio of games played to total score, or games played to average rank also don't work for the same reasons.

An average rank of all songs that you -have- played would come a little closer than average rank as a whole (IE. scores of 0 don't factor in) but it could only be relevant after a certain number of games were played, and a certain number of songs were played. Otherwise simply AAA'ing excite bike and nothing else would makeyou rank 1.

I think if you were ever going to make a close to correct method of ranking people, you'd basically have to make a formula that took into account total score, average rank, games played, songs played, basically, cram as many variables into it as possible, weight them according to their relative objectivity, and somehow spit out a final number.

Thinking on it, something like breaking down someone's average rank by difficulty and then taking in turn an average of -that- might be better than strictly an average rank. So if you have AAA'd everything of difficulty 1-9, have an average rank of 10 on 10s and 15 on 11s, and 20 on 12s, you'd turn out an average average rank of 4.5
I really think that the only true measure of comparative skill is direct competition.

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MP Level, ftw.