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  • MilfeulleSakuraba
    Ryoko Shintani is #1!
    • Feb 2006
    • 403

    #1

    TWG XLVIII Postgame finally

    I'm half tempted not to post roles because a good chunk of you don't deserve to know what was going on. I also apologize to everyone who was waiting for the game to end, though not too much because none of you actually bothered to help expedite the process by finding replacements.

    But I'm going to anyway. >_>

    However, before I do, for future reference, if I ever do one of these games again (which isn't terribly likely), don't talk to dead people. Wanna know why thunder was caught? He told people his role after they died, Manti most notably (maybe Stoic too idk). Then they came back and oh **** they know who to vote off!

    Not talking to dead people is not a rule, it is a suggestion. Perhaps, after this game, it is a suggestion none of you will take lightly.

    Anyway...

    4 wolves

    1 Master Wolf (played by flawofhumanity (Patchouli Knowledge))
    Returns "human" to Aspiring Seer
    Only has 25% chance of losing an artifact
    If lynched, Master Wolf gets a retaliatory kill the next night - this kill is unguardable but can only target someone who voted for the Master Wolf
    Unaffected if in possession of the Deception Artifact
    Master Wolf is treated as green for all Question Artifact purposes (unless a question is asked about wolf population)

    1 Wolf Thief (played by FishFishRevolution (Sakuya Izayoi))
    Returns "not human" to Aspiring Seer
    Operating illegally
    Each night, the player targets one other player for theft
    If a player targeted for theft has any artifacts, the Wolf Thief steals them
    Cannot target self or fellow wolves

    1 Wolf Seer (played by Yesssss (Reisen Udongein Inaba))
    Returns "not human" to Aspiring Seer
    Each night, the player looks at one person and is told if they are green or blue

    1 Aspiring Wolf Jeweler (played by thunderstrike687 (Yuyuko Saigyouji))
    Returns "not human" to Aspiring Seer
    Has a 50% chance of figuring out the use of any artifact they come in possession of


    ---

    1 Aspiring Seer (3 looks) (played by DiscoBobbyPARANOiA (Marisa Kirisame))
    Returns "blue" to Wolf Seer
    May select at most one person per night to look at
    Person looked at will return "human" or "not human" to the player
    If the player survives to Night 5, they get 2 extra looks
    If player dies, they lose all looks and cannot ever gain any new ones

    1 Priest (played by talisman (Yukari Yakumo))
    Returns "blue" to Wolf Seer
    Operating illegally until power is used
    Power must be used at night
    Once during the game, the Priest may resurrect one wolfed/lynched player

    1 Jesus (played by StoicRoivaS (Youmu Konpaku))
    Returns "blue" to Wolf Seer
    If killed, resurrects three days later for a single day
    If Lazarus is killed, saying that player's name will resurrect that player at the next night-to-day transition
    Does not know who Lazarus is

    1 Lazarus (played by mattc16 (Reimu Hakurei))
    Returns "green" to Wolf Seer
    If Jesus says player's name after player is killed, player is resurrected at the next night-to-day transition
    Does not know who Jesus is
    Does not know they are Lazarus

    1 Jeweler (played by X3R0H0UR (Suika Ibuki))
    Returns "blue" to Wolf Seer
    Operating illegally
    Can identify any artifact the player gets a hold of if player so chooses

    1 Thief (played by pntballa18 (Komachi Onozuka))
    Returns "blue" to Wolf Seer
    Each night, the player targets one other player for theft
    If that player has any artifacts, the thief takes them
    Thief cannot target themselves for theft
    Thief only has a 50% chance of stealing from the curator (each artifact is rolled for separately)
    The thief only has a 25% of losing an artifact, but if they lose one they lose them all and each artifact is rolled for

    1 Curator (played by Kefit (Cirno))
    Returns "blue" to Wolf Seer
    0% chance of losing artifacts at night (except in special cases)
    100% pass accuracy

    1 Crazy Ivan (played by DarkManticoreX2 (Alice Margatroid))
    Returns "blue" to Wolf Seer
    Operating illegally
    Kills random player if killed
    Chance of retaliation toward killing parties is increased


    1 Defector (played by nijatwo (Eirin Yagokoro))
    Returns "green" to Wolf Seer
    Operating illegally
    Wins if humans lose
    Wins if survives through a human win
    Loses if dies in a human win


    3 normal humans (played by rioting (Sikieiki Yamaxanadu), roundbox (Kaguya Houraisan), FictionJunction (Remilia Scarlet))

    Artifacts and special notes in a later post, I need to call some doctors.
  • talisman
    Resident Penguin
    FFR Simfile Author
    • May 2003
    • 4598

    #2
    Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

    god damn that took a long time.

    I'm glad it was a win for us, but seriously folks. How did you miss the admission of guilt statement thunder made at the end of the day where he surely thought he was about to be lynched? Stoic even pointed it out. Could have made that last day ten times shorter.

    I'm mad at myself for not thinking of a role duplication within the wolves with the whole jewelers thing, but I guess it worked out.

    Stoic sorry for doubting you. It's just that it occurred to me that I was a resurrection role and I didn't see there being two resurrection roles on the same side of the game (but then again I didn't see there being four wolves either).

    Manti sorry for forgetting to set you up with a foolproof way to take over the alliance in case I died. (about the only plan I had that worked this game was getting manti attacked so that I could rez him).

    flaw you had some good scrambling but it was obvious at the end.

    fish you were pretty readable. trying harder than I imagined you would.

    yess you would have had me fooled since I tend not to assume wolves will be that obvious.

    thunder, poor choice divulging your role info to people.

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    • MilfeulleSakuraba
      Ryoko Shintani is #1!
      • Feb 2006
      • 403

      #3
      Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

      Here's the complete artifact list, c/p'ed straight out of NotePad.

      Useless Artifact (Etch of Reimu and Marisa sitting at the shrine entrace drinking tea)
      Unusable
      Looks pretty

      Freeze Artifact (Etch of Cirno holding a toad with a smirk on her face)
      Unusable
      During the day, whoever the holder votes for has their vote for the day nullified

      Switcheroo Artifact (Etch of Yukari sticking an arm through an open boundary)
      Can be used any time
      If used, holder switches that day's vote total with the person they target and artifact gains 100% reshuffle chance for next night only (void if target is dead)

      Question Artifact (Etch of Aya scribbling furiously in her notebook)
      Can be "used" any time
      Host must answer the first question the holder asks of the host truthfully: elegible questions must have an answer of "yes", "no" or a number
      If a question is asked and answered truthfully, the artifact's reshuffle chance changes to 100% until the next time it changes hands

      Name Vigi Artifact (Etch of Komachi tossing a couple of her coins in the air)
      Unusable
      At the end of a day, there is a 1/4 chance the player whose name was last said by the holder during the day is killed (votes are counted) (names of dead people are ignored)

      Deception Artifact (Etch of Reisen glaring at the user)
      Unusable
      Holder returns the opposite of what they would normally return to a seer when looked at

      Resurrection Artifact (Etch of Mokou with a phoenix on her arm)
      Unusable
      100% reshuffle chance that takes priority over any and all other special modifiers
      Cannot be stolen
      Both the living and the dead are elegible recipients of this artifact during a reshuffle
      If a dead player recieves this artifact, they are returned to life and the artifact becomes useless
      If the holder of this artifact is wolfed, they are saved and the artifact becomes useless
      If the holder of this artifact is lynched, they are returned to life during the next night-to-day transition and the artifact becomes useless

      Psychic Artifact (Etch of Siki looking in her mirror)
      Can be used any time
      If a human uses the artifact, they are told how many wolves are dead
      If a wolf uses the artifact, they are told how many blues are dead

      Special Notes:

      - In regards to all the extra deaths/rebirths, thunder was saved on Day 2 by the Ressurection Artifact, talisman's Priest power was used on Manti, flaw's Brutal kill was used on talisman, Stoic (first time) and nija got hit by the Name Vigi artifact, and rioting and roundbox both got Ivan'd.
      - The wolves got dicked pretty hard when Kefit lucked across the Psychic artifact Night 2 and was ambitious enough to use it to see what it did. There wasn't supposed to be that much human-exclusive role information. Still, I think thunder could've pulled it off had he not said anything to any cadavers.
      - As you may have guessed by now, Manti getting voted off was a result of thunder using the Switcheroo on him. Incidentally, flaw had used the same artifact the day before, and it would have saved him had he not targeted Yesssss with it. D:

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      • StoicRoivaS
        FFR Player
        • May 2006
        • 548

        #4
        Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

        Quick question involving the question artifact, what, if any, were it's limitations on what you would and would not answer? I don't want to spill it in public in case this idea is reused, but I can think of a semi-complicated number-answered question that would be almost guaranteed to own every wolf.

        Yesssss was obvious, thunder was more obvious. If you want to ask for an illegal to be killed (and that person isn't under suspicion of being red-illegal), it's best not to do it in the thread.

        Another question, kilga, was I also attacked the same night I "died"? I would assume so being as I was the only death, but I imagine other things could have happened. I tried to make this my only "goal" in coming back to life. It was suggested (I think by flaw) that I approach the players with "hey, I came back to life" and try to split people into the "awesome" or "wait, how" pile, to give us a better chance at hitting wolves, but when talisman announced my role, I didn't feel that would be as productive, so I decided to at least try and get wolfed to help the team. Hopefully that worked. DBP was my near-certain SK guess because of a small statement he made over a game of twilight imperium, something about his kill going through but not being a wolf. I didn't think it was a joke because of how little effort he put behind the statement, but it was a guess none the less.

        That's about it. Don't take forever to vote next time banking on kilga's lack of desire to update. The multiple extensions did not help this thing to end. Phantoms really should be given to those who don't want to play, and future decisions should be made by hosts to not let repeat offenders play. But that's just me and my idealism again.

        Anyone opposed to another TT TWG?
        Like the moon over
        the day, my genius and brawn are
        wasted on these fools. ~Haiku
        -Bowser

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        • talisman
          Resident Penguin
          FFR Simfile Author
          • May 2003
          • 4598

          #5
          Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

          they wolfed thunder themselves since they knew he had the item. you were killed by that "X said your name so you die item".

          Also, I thought of a question whereby you just ask "ok, if you look at the wolves' order of signups, what is the sum of the numbers to which each is ascribed?" but I figured that would be bending the rules too much.

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          • sertman
            DADALADAH
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jun 2005
            • 3910

            #6
            Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

            wow there needs to be a cap on the length that games last from now on and the people that caused the game to hit the cap need to be twg banned for 5 games.

            i don't think i remember how to play TWG anymore. someone link me to the rules.
            Last edited by sertman; 07-16-2007, 03:51 PM.

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            • X3R0H0UR
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2007
              • 540

              #7
              Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

              http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=58585
              Last edited by X3R0H0UR; 07-16-2007, 04:41 PM.
              Gynecologist, Saturday nights only.

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              • DarkManticoreX2
                TWG Overlord
                • Apr 2005
                • 7355

                #8
                Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

                Xero, you are retarted.

                Further...................

                Xero, you are retarted.
                AAA's = 800

                Originally posted by V
                Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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                • MilfeulleSakuraba
                  Ryoko Shintani is #1!
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 403

                  #9
                  Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

                  I would have answered any question truthfully as long as the answer was a valid one, though I suppose if I use that particular item I should probably restrict number answers to "how many?" questions.

                  And yes, Stoic, you were wolfed Night 6 or whatever that was.

                  EDIT: X3R0, that sort of thing typically warrants a 6 month ban. I certainly hope that's not your goal.

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                  • X3R0H0UR
                    FFR Player
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 540

                    #10
                    Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

                    nope it was specifically designed for one target, but if thats a big deal, i'll taaaaaaaake it down -_-

                    dont be angry you got partied
                    Gynecologist, Saturday nights only.

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                    • MilfeulleSakuraba
                      Ryoko Shintani is #1!
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 403

                      #11
                      Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

                      I'm not angry, I'm just saying since the same thing almost happened to me yesterday. >_>

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                      • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 1206

                        #12
                        Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

                        Sluts


                        Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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                        • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 1206

                          #13
                          Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

                          btw I seered flaw night one and told him he was master shortly after


                          Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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                          • Yesssss
                            FFR Player
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 2522

                            #14
                            Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

                            Go me for misreading the rules. I was pretty much screwed after that.

                            also
                            Originally posted by talisman
                            yess you would have had me fooled since I tend not to assume wolves will be that obvious.
                            This was my exact intention. The least I could do at the time was make me being a wolf nonsensical.
                            Last edited by Yesssss; 07-16-2007, 09:45 PM.
                            YOU JUST WON THE GAME! CONGRATULATIONS!

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                            • StoicRoivaS
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2006
                              • 548

                              #15
                              Re: TWG 48 Postgame finally

                              Originally posted by talisman
                              they wolfed thunder themselves since they knew he had the item. you were killed by that "X said your name so you die item".

                              Also, I thought of a question whereby you just ask "ok, if you look at the wolves' order of signups, what is the sum of the numbers to which each is ascribed?" but I figured that would be bending the rules too much.
                              My idea was basically a more confounded and more accurate version of this idea. Though I sort of doubt it would have been allowed given its accuracy.
                              Like the moon over
                              the day, my genius and brawn are
                              wasted on these fools. ~Haiku
                              -Bowser

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