Buying a new compy, need second opinions on parts

**evilcowgod** · 04-24-2007, 05:39 PM

Re: Buying a new compy, need second opinions on parts

The only thing i'm concerned about is you using Windows Vista with an Nvidia graphics card. Nothing wrong with nividia itself, but it doesn't work well with vista, causes a lot of problems supposedly.

**Kenzya** · 04-24-2007, 06:02 PM

Re: Buying a new compy, need second opinions on parts

a physics card

yeah no go ahead great computer no go ahead i didn't say anything go for it

**All_That_Chaz** · 04-24-2007, 08:53 PM

Re: Buying a new compy, need second opinions on parts

Originally posted by evilcowgod

The only thing i'm concerned about is you using Windows Vista with an Nvidia graphics card. Nothing wrong with nividia itself, but it doesn't work well with vista, causes a lot of problems supposedly.

I'm well aware of the problems with video cards. There really doesn't seem to be a video card out there that is 100% vista/directx10 compatible yet. I noted in my post that I'll be waiting to buy the machine until the drivers for nvidia are all ready and set when i buy it. I'm going to stick with nvidia because the 8800 gtx is really just so badass. it kicks the crap out of the ati x1950. in one review the comparison was likened to a bodybuilder beating up a kid in a wheelchair. and if there's one thing i love, it's beating up the handicapped -_-'

**Shashmakito** · 04-24-2007, 09:16 PM

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It's a good build.
But do you care about how much it costs?

**All_That_Chaz** · 04-24-2007, 09:26 PM

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i looked around at voodoo and falcon northwest and with the same parts alienware is cheaper. i could go with an hp which would be cheaper, but i wouldn't be able to get the badass processor or video card without upgrading myself, and after buying those things, the price would about level out, and i'd rather not void the warranty on an hp by upgrading myself.

i have money. i count my blessings every day for what was given to me. my grandmother has a pension, doesn't spend money ever, and two grandkids, meaning she gave my sister and i like 20k each upon our high school graduations. that money will go towards furnishing my apartment and eventually this computer. i also make a decent living in an area that's relatively cheap to live in (Madison, WI). I'll only be paying about $750/month in rent, which makes people living in NY and LA faint upon hearing.

**1337h4xz0r** · 04-24-2007, 09:33 PM

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use an A-51.. to play FFR....

Stab.

**All_That_Chaz** · 04-24-2007, 09:50 PM

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haha, ffr is not the reason i am buying a new computer, much less a super-powered one.

my machine is just old for one. it can't run any real games due to a sh!tty 16mb video card, and it can barely run normal applications. i can't run emulators like i used to. older games are at a crawl. i get lag on word for christ's sake. (i can, however, play ffr... at lo-res).

and even that doesn't describe why i want a dream machine. i want this machine to last a decade. i realize that the second 5 years of that decade i will probably have a low-quality machine, but it will still be usable. and i can always upgrade when it gets really bad or if a specific game comes out that demands a 1GB video card or demands SLI or whatever. The motherboard I'm getting has an SLI option so I'm prepared for that upgrade. I'm more concerned with longevity than immediate impact. I want this computer to last me at least through the lifetime of vista.

**A2_Sauce** · 04-24-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by All_That_Chaz

i looked around at voodoo and falcon northwest and with the same parts alienware is cheaper. i could go with an hp which would be cheaper, but i wouldn't be able to get the badass processor or video card without upgrading myself, and after buying those things, the price would about level out, and i'd rather not void the warranty on an hp by upgrading myself.

i have money. i count my blessings every day for what was given to me. my grandmother has a pension, doesn't spend money ever, and two grandkids, meaning she gave my sister and i like 20k each upon our high school graduations. that money will go towards furnishing my apartment and eventually this computer. i also make a decent living in an area that's relatively cheap to live in (Madison, WI). I'll only be paying about $750/month in rent, which makes people living in NY and LA faint upon hearing.

Chaz, I shall visit you weekly.

**All_That_Chaz** · 04-24-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by A2_Sauce

Chaz, I shall visit you weekly.

aren't you going to school soon? and don't expect me to be spending the makings of my life savings on you. you don't have nearly as many megabites as the nvidia 8800 gtx

btw, i'll be in madison again on saturday. but you'll probably be at NU lol.

**A2_Sauce** · 04-24-2007, 10:24 PM

Re: Buying a new compy, need second opinions on parts

Originally posted by All_That_Chaz

aren't you going to school soon? and don't expect me to be spending the makings of my life savings on you. you don't have nearly as many megabites as the nvidia 8800 gtx

btw, i'll be in madison again on saturday. but you'll probably be at NU lol.

that is correct

**g4z33b0** · 04-25-2007, 07:20 AM

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First and biggest problem - Alienware prebuilt. All low quality, notoriously shitty, and no different from any piece of trash you would buy from Best Buy or Circuit City. I'm not arguing build vs. buy, just if you want a good prebuilt try a Falcon (http://www.falcon-nw.com/). Second problem - Vista. Just go XP, it will probably save you money and you wont have to deal with a buggy OS.

**All_That_Chaz** · 04-25-2007, 09:05 AM

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Everything I've ever read about alienware sings its praises. And you didn't read the last paragraph where I said I'm getting vista because I want this machine to last a while, so I want the latest OS, I'll probably wait to buy the machine until microsoft releases their first vista service pack. You also didn't read in the comments where I said that I checked out falcon northwest and for the same parts it's 1000+ more expensive, so nuts to them.

I honestly think you're trying to mess with me.

**g4z33b0** · 04-25-2007, 04:46 PM

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... No I'm really not. I build computers, gaming and non gaming, and I would seriously not buy Vista. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer XP to Vista any day. And I think an XP machine will last around as long as a Vista. I missed the thing where you said you checked out Falcon, my bad, I've never bought from them, just heard many good reviews. Also, I've heard many bad reviews on Alienware, but I guess you just have different sources.

If you aren't already set on that Alienware, check out http://stores.ebay.com/CJLEI-Computers. Me and my friend's eBay store, you can easily customize a machine from a vast selection of parts. Plus it's all in Flash (code by us), so easy interface.

**All_That_Chaz** · 04-25-2007, 11:06 PM

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so you're saying you want me to buy a computer from you instead of alienware...

forgive me if i don't trust you all that much, but i take marketing classes, it happens.

haha, i'm just playing. i'm not set on that machine at all. hell, the dell xps 710 is looking better already since they upgraded the stuff that makes dells ****ty and i can get all the same stuff besides RAID which I won't get anyway, and it's $1000 cheaper. i'll definitely check your site out. but i generally don't go for self/friend-built due to lack of support.

the one thing on vista. im aware that a machine with vista and a machine with xp will probably last the same amount of time. that doesn't concern me. what concerns me are applications that will be vista-only. i don't know if there will be any, but the possibility is good enough for me to get vista. and since i want this machine to last me until the next os, i'm going to go with the new one.

EDIT: I checked out your site. You've got some great parts. Get a 8800 gtx video card and it would be tempting to buy from you (i don't really understand the point of sli, and the 768mb should be enough for anything up to the next generation), if you'd guarantee under pain of death that it would last for 7 years or so.

EDIT EDIT: Your site is definitely good. I'd consider adding a couple things to your list to customize, like power supply, external hd, just to make it more complete.

Buying a new compy, need second opinions on parts

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