Something called "Battle Cry" or something of that nature.

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GLnHF.

if we didn't have those people that protest for strange and pointless things, we would probably all become pawns in some way. I mean look at all the Supreme Court cases about some completely idiotic incident. It prevents our freedoms from being taken away, atleast slows it down..

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What's so bad about what they're doing?
Where is there oppression of religious freedom in America?
Why are you surprised that Christians make God their entire life?
Why are you surprised that the leader appears confident?

Honestly, getting people away from MTV and to, well, almost anything else is a good thing, if you ask me.

--Guido

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God God God God God God God God God God

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They actually pose a good enough arguement to people to get them to believe all that Bible stuff?!...wow, where are people's sense of thinking things through? I don't know why people believe in things they can't see or even know exist. Sure there's nothing wrong with people that are religious, it brings some of my family great comfort, but eventually, people get too dependent on God to try and give them a quick fix for things. I don't understand why people let others tell them what to think and do or else the god that loves them will make them burn in hell for not following his way of thinking. Oh well, people will eventually see things for what they are.

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The problem with this is calling it a "war". If they want to encourage kids to stop listening to crappy music and start going to church, hey, all the power to them. But calling it a "war" encourages bad tactics like violence and vandalism.

Make sure you watch "Jesus Camp" for a good example of fundamentalism gone wrong.

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If kids are corrupted by TV programs and/or video games, it's their fault.

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Not necessarily. People that I know have been brought up in families that encourage that sort of thing. One girl that I know, in particular, believes that if a relationship isn't based on sex, it isn't worth having. Maybe you believe that sex before marriage is okay [I personally do not], but even you must agree that her mindset is incorrect. Battlecry, in part, tries to teach kids that the way of the world is not the only way. While I'm not a part of that, I have looked at it several times and do not consider it to be a hopeless/useless organization. I think I'm going to go to one of their concerts when it comes my way.

But whoever did that wiki page isn't too good with grammar..

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I can understand getting kids to behave, but it's being taken too far. I mean, there actually are some decent songs and influences out there. If people are raised that way, it's the parents' fault. They had the choice whether to watch these programs or not, MTV didn't force it down upon them.

You know, I find that only the bad news in video games is seen most often. This may have been obvious to you, but I now just sat down and thought about it. Then again, don't they usually write out "Don't try this in real life" on the box?

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The point of an argument is to present the relevant facts, and to let the people think things through - besides, arguments are not the point of Battlecry. The point is to spread God's message to the teens inundated by the negative messages of the world.

God is not a "quick fix." To be a Christian is to have a lasting relationship with Christ, not "oh, crap, I need help.. umm 'Jesus, help me out!'"

Perhaps learn Christian doctrine before saying "omg god will smite us"?

To enter into Heaven, a person must be perfect. In the beginning, in the garden of Eden, man was perfect. However, Satan entered the world and tempted man into sin. In order to SAVE US from going to Hell, God sent his own Son to die the most horrible death as the final sacrifice for all sins, and all one must do to accept his offer of saving salvation.. is to believe in Him. You must give your life and soul to him, and spread his Word. That is all.

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My one friend is a very devout Christian.

He is also a heavy gamer.

BUT THAT CAN'T BE

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On top of that, acknerr, indirectly attempting to force religious beliefs into the minds of teens (No matter what religion) and young adults is basically what BC is doing. You seem to be doing the same with your Atheist views.

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Battle Cry isn't FORCING any religious beliefs. Where the hell did you get that idea? They have every right to go around spreading their message.

Hell, it's not even POSSIBLE to force a belief.

You never answered my questions earlier, either. You've yet to present a single bad thing that they're doing.

So what if they try to get kids away from MTV? It's pure, unadulterated trash. I pity any kid who watches it and I'll thank any group who goes around and lets such poor kids understand that fact. MTV's a complete waste of time, and if they go around and try to get kids to better themselves, develop a greater relationship with God, and not let their lives go to waste or even get corrupted from too much MTV, why are you so against what they do? Sure, it's a kid's choice to watch MTV, but sometimes you need a good slap in the face to see how it's really affecting their lives. Kids don't think about that.

Okay, so they have some "extreme" standpoints? Big freakin' deal. There's still nothing wrong with what they're doing. They're not taking anything too far by any means.

Answer my questions. Go ahead.

--Guido

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It's too much of a good thing, really.



Look under the section linked and major (it's probably spelled incorrectly) tenents. That explains my comment on faith.

And they're not just going after MTV, which, in all honesty, I haven't seen in a while. They're going after huge parts of the media, which, I say again that the younger ones have a choice to watch a program or not. Did they primarily set up these programs for younger human beings? No. Did they expect some younger ones to watch these under supervision, or atleast let them decide if they want to watch it themselves? Yes, and there are ratings in the top left corner of the 'tube and the generic "Viewer's discretion advised" line to prove it. These are also provided on CD's and mature sites as well. Teens are getting into their own mess.

Also:



I understand that there are some programs that are downright nasty, but I'm sure most of them aren't trying to "seduce and enslave." Go ahead and look through the rest of the site as well.

Guido, you're a wise man, but this is one of the rare occasions when I have to disagree with you. Maybe it's the fact that the media hasn't affected me as much as other teens. Maybe it's the fact that I hate Christ-a-holics with a burning passion. But I'm just not with this Battle Cry program. Yes, bring some morality to the media and economy, but don't destroy the media and economy.

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Way to go, contradict yourself in two consecutive sentences. Does the world today, especially the internet, not promote an anti-Christian environment? If you disagree with Christians, go for it. I'm not going to shove Christ down your throat.

"I hate Christians with a burning passion"

"The media hasn't affected me"

"I hate Christians with a burning passion"

Hm.