Formulas for 700 Home Run Players

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Home Run Contest in SSBM > actual baseball

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Don't forget extreme amounts of syphilis for the first named.

Almost as much as the steroids Barry took.

Not that it matters, what with the records going to be (should be) thrown out.

--Guido

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All records prior to 1947 deserve a racism asterisk.

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lol...

the ONLY "asterisk" that baseball will EVER give is to records pre-1900.

This decade is far from being the only one where cheating occured. It just happens to be the first one in which it is being made public.

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I was more making a point that stating something I believe in.

I believe Bonds is only getting as much heat as he is because he's a jerk. He is far from the only player to ever cheat (assuming he actually did), and the era he has played in is far from the only era that provided some advantage to hitters.

To use Ruth as an example, he played in a time when there were no black players, which lowered the overall talent of the league. He also played in a launching pad (less than 300 feet down the right field line) whereas San Fran is very much pitcher-friendly. And then there's the issue of whether he used corked bats or not.

Bonds isn't the only player to use steriods (assuming he did) either. There are probably upwards of 300 that have done it. He just happens to be the only one that broke 700 home runs, so obviously he has something else going for him.

I don't mind Bonds at all, and I would love to have him as a DH on my team next year even though it means Kevin Youkilis would be out of a starting job.

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You didn't put Hank Aaron in your reply...

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I remember there was something about Hank Aaron that made his accomplishments suspect too but I forget what it was so I decided not to bring it up.

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He was fighting racism during the 1970's. Racism was still a big problem during that time.

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No, I mean he was enhancing his game somehow. Like Ruth's corked bats and Bonds' steroids.

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I could have sworn Maris got an asterisk for hitting 61 homeruns in 162 games, when Ruth hit 60 in only 154 games. In his case it is deserved because if he hit 61 in 154 games, then there wouldn't be an asterisk.

And all of that "oh well he didn't play with black players so his records need an asterisk" is bull****, straight up. Bonds deserves an asterisk because he knowingly used illegal substances to deliberately give himself an unfair advantage over other players. Ruth couldn't control the lack of black players in the game. That's the way the league was.

All people seem to do is just try to completely avoid the Bonds point by making up stupid bull**** reasons why other great players should get an asterisk. Or, they try to justify Bonds' steroid use somehow, as if the game should just ignore what is basically the end of a game of skill. Sure, you still have to hit a baseball pitched from a professional pitcher well enough to hit it to the outfield. But with steroids, bat speed is increased. You have more time to recognize what the pitch is. A split second is a LOT of time with a 99 MPH fastball is coming at you. There are balls that without steroids you'd either miss or swing so late you hit it foul, but with steroids, you hit it out of the park. That's an unfair advantage due to substances banned by Major League Baseball. With steroids, those balls that die at the warning track, the balls you lift out to center, those balls that land to the right of the right field foul pole (or left of the left field foul pole if you hit lefty) are home runs. Unfair advantage due to substances banned by the game. I'd like to know how it's fair that due to a substance banned by the game, your offensive productivity increases dramatically as you get into your late 30's, early 40's. Bobby Bonds retired from the game after age 39 and was no good after 35.

Ruth broke no rules (corked bats? since when did he use those). Hank Aaron broke no rules. Barry Bonds deliberately and maliciously broke those rules to give himself a personal advantage. I'm sick of him basically taking all the spotlight away from Pujols, who is a class act and clean (as far as i know). Bonds is a complete asshole who I don't want to be the face of baseball this season.

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What a surprise, hate for Bonds because he's a jerk.

Never mind the zillions of other players that used steroids. Never mind that every era had something going for it that gve the hitters some advantage, be it in their control or not. Bonds has to be singled out because he's not very personable.

Look at Rafael Palmeiro. He still has a realistic shot at the Hall despite using steroids. Why? Because he was a sufficiently nice guy that people aren't bursting at the seams to hate him.

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Legend has it that Babe Ruth's final home run flew a distance of 550 feet or about the circumference of barry bonds' head.

i read that somewhere and thought it was funny

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You think I hate Bonds just because he's a jerk? You don't think that compromising the integrity of the game may have something to do with it?

Rafael Palmerio was my favorite baseball player since the age of 4, when I would watch O's games and call out "Raffy!" "Raffy!". When I found out he used steroids, I couldn't watch the O's. I just didn't want to hear about it. So i watched the Nats, and became a fan of them. I don't like Raffy anymore because he took steroids. He was one of the nicest guys in the game, but if you take steroids, I don't like you. Sosa was the same way. Likable guy, got McGwire to open up in front of the media. I liked him, until I found out he took steroids (and corked his bats)

There's a difference between the advantages. Whatever advantage Ruth may have had was out of his control, and most important, HE DIDN'T KNOWINGLY GIVE HIMSELF AN ADVANTAGE BY DOING STUFF THAT WENT AGAINST THE RULES OF THE GAME. Now, Bonds, on the other hand...

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HR Record is way overrated.

Hit Streaks and Career averages are far better records.

I like Bonds, I hope he breaks the records. If you want to beat him, take steroids.