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  • the sun fan
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2017
    • 476

    #1

    TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

    9 players
    2 masons
    1 mafia role cop (gets full role results and not "pr" or "not pr"
    1 vanilla mafia
    a setup I just made up

    day start
    no lynch/kill off
    00: good 01: bad
    full role cardflips
    ootc off
    phantoms off
    insta on
    nighttalk off except for wolves in wolfchat and masons in masonchat
    wolfchat and mason chat can be anywhere so long as I have access to it
    12 hour day and night phases, in the case of early insta phases will still revolve around midnight server time and noon server time
    Both wolves are PMed the role cop's result each time the role cop uses their power

    1) Xiz Won at endgame, Vanilla Mafia
    2) flashflash_account Killed n2, Mason
    3) mellonxcollie Killed n1, Mason
    4) DaBackPack Lynched d0, Vanilla Town
    5) Hakulyte Killed n3, Vanilla Town
    6) Gradiant Lynched d4, Vanilla Town
    7) Celirra Lost at Endgame, Vanilla Town
    8) Wayward Vagabond Lynched d3, Vanilla Town
    9) danceflashrevo Lynched d1, Mafia Role Cop
    Replacements
    1) T-Force
    2) FreezinIce
    3)
    TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    FFR is a pretty good place somehow.
  • Charu
    Snivy! Dohoho!
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2006
    • 6161

    #2
    Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread



    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
    Had a very shiny nose
    And if you ever saw it
    You could even say it glows

    All of the other Snivies
    Used to laugh and call him names
    They never let poor Charu
    Join in any Snivy games

    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


    Originally posted by Vendetta21
    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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    • Celirra
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2015
      • 749

      #3
      Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

      ,,
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       ゛ヌ ノノノノハヾ
       ノ li.゚ ヮ゚ノi
      彡と} 猫.{つ

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      • Wayward Vagabond
        Confirmed Heartbreaker
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2012
        • 5866

        #4
        Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

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        • the sun fan
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2017
          • 476

          #5
          Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

          MVP to Xiz easily, figured out the masons by the start of n1 and carried the wolfteam to victory.

          I talked privately to haku about why claiming mason as vanilla town is pretty much a terrible idea almost all of the time but I want to reiterate it a little bit:

          If you know who the mason is and you are town, chances are the wolves also know because they have a role cop that has checked someone and because they have the same interactions that raeko had from the previous phase.

          FFA also had Hakulyte as his top wolf so if he sees Hakulyte claiming his role, he's not going to think about whether or not it makes any sense for Hakulyte to claim the role as a wolf, he's just going to snap CC and argue for lynching Haku (which I believe is the correct response to your top wolf claiming your role in that situation).

          It didn't really unite the town around anything more than a much better alternative would've, as I think the thing that really got the dfr lynch going was Cel's case on him, rather than anything else.

          Even trying to get value where its hard to get doesn't really do much. Lets say the wolves didn't have the role cop result from n1 telling them that ffa was the last mason and lets say that the wolves end that phase unsure of who the last mason is until haku claims, and is uncounterclaimed.

          even if ffa lives to the next phase and claims, its still not really that valuable. A mason being alive when there is one wolf left in f5 doesn't really mean much more than no mason being alive in f5. Far more important than that is the reads of the players who are alive at that point as well as the skill of the last wolf.

          ----------------------------------------------

          Additionally, and I've said this to Celirra already, this is more of a thing that is a little bit dangerous but it really is the kind of thing you can pin on Xiz.

          If a weird nightkill happens going into f3, chances are that the guy with the undertitle of "TWG Chaos" made the nightkill.
          TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

          FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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          • flashflash account
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2017
            • 567

            #6
            Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

            lol

            I'm impressed

            if I had still been alive, I would've flopped my read on wayward because he started doing his snippy thing again where he calls out tiny little bits and spotlights them. Sad that the roleplay read was wrong, happy that the Occam's Razor read is right.
            Thought gradiant was the wolf in final 3 until xiz mentioned that both masons were town reading him. Felt super extra and at that point I was unsure again.

            Raeko and I talked here, under the "other mafia" tab
            Discord is great for playing games and chilling with friends, or even building a worldwide community. Customize your own space to talk, play, and hang out.
            aka mikey

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            Originally posted by FreezinIce
            FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

            Originally posted by QueenAshy
            I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
            i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
            seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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            • Xiz
              TWG Chaos
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2012
              • 3399

              #7
              Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

              Originally posted by the sun fan
              If a weird nightkill happens going into f3, chances are that the guy with the undertitle of "TWG Chaos" made the nightkill.
              Oops, true dat.

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              • flashflash account
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2017
                • 567

                #8
                Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

                I'll just copy paste it for the lazy people.
                [6:53 AM] mike: @raeko hi does this work
                [9:30 AM] raeko: O HI
                [9:31 AM] raeko: flash flash are we really mason buddies @Mikey @mike
                [9:31 AM] raeko: how ever will we fight each other day one
                [9:34 AM] raeko: you need to add fanny to this chat tho so it might be easier to just make a new group chat if hes not in this server
                [9:35 AM] Mikey: He ought to be >
                [9:38 AM] Mikey: I sent him an invite link
                [9:39 AM] Mikey: I'm at work rn though so I'll check to see if he clicked it when I'm on break
                [9:39 AM] Mikey: Gotta save phone juice so that I can twg during lunch
                [9:40 AM] raeko: kk well if he doesnt join by game start just make a group PM
                [9:40 AM] raeko: cause we wanna be able to talk during the day for sure
                [10:59 AM] Mikey: Can you be the one to make that
                [1:47 PM] Mikey: That's one sunny boi
                [1:47 PM] Mikey: Extra sun on the side
                [1:47 PM] Mikey: @raeko do you think haku is woofin
                [1:55 PM] Mikey: I have to turn my phone off so that I can chat on the way home
                [1:55 PM] Mikey: Lemme know AAAALL your thoughts before then
                [2:19 PM] raeko: i got sketchy vibes immediately
                [2:19 PM] raeko: roleplaying dangan ronpa = vibes from my survivor game when he was a wolf
                [2:19 PM] raeko: and roleplaying dangan ronpa
                [2:20 PM] raeko: ok anyway I just got home so I'll read the thread now
                [2:22 PM] thesunfan: ur only supposed to talk during the night, friends
                [2:22 PM] raeko: oh in the setup it says day LMAO
                [2:22 PM] raeko: somewhere it did
                [2:22 PM] raeko: IM SORRY i thought this was so OP i was so pumped
                [2:23 PM] thesunfan: no worries
                [2:24 PM] raeko: yeah it was in the PM
                [2:24 PM] raeko:
                [2:24 PM] raeko: WHATS THE DAY PHRASE SUNFAN whats the secret phrase
                [2:27 PM] thesunfan: fuck
                [2:27 PM] thesunfan: that should say night phase
                [2:27 PM] thesunfan: my b
                [2:27 PM] raeko: but whats the phrase
                [2:28 PM] raeko: im kidding im kidding
                [2:28 PM] thesunfan: that's for u to find out!
                [2:28 PM] thesunfan: !!!!!
                [2:28 PM] raeko: ooo
                [2:51 PM] Mikey: Is it "phrase"
                [2:51 PM] thesunfan: there's no twists or anything
                [2:51 PM] thesunfan: it should be phase and im a dumbdumb
                [11:02 PM] Mikey: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
                [11:08 PM] Mikey: frick, I thought DBP might be a hit
                [11:08 PM] Mikey: oh well, helps PoE
                [11:08 PM] Mikey: and I think xiz is town now
                [11:08 PM] Mikey: so the wolves are between haku/gradiant/dfr
                [11:09 PM] Mikey: I think you were right we should lynch gradiant
                [11:11 PM] raeko: rip us
                [11:11 PM] Mikey: yeah that was my bad, I think you had to out us as masons
                [11:12 PM] raeko: i had sketchy vibes from gradiant but that lynch wasnt sticking so
                [11:12 PM] raeko: dfr im not sure about at all
                [11:12 PM] Mikey: I debated saying something like "SHHHH ur gonna blow our mason cover!1!!1!!"
                [11:12 PM] raeko: i think haku will solve himself with time as he always does
                [11:12 PM] raeko: thats the point lol
                [11:12 PM] raeko: if one of us dies, it doesnt really matter
                [11:12 PM] Mikey: to me haku's already solved himself
                [11:12 PM] raeko: we have a strong backlog now to look back on
                [11:12 PM] raeko: evidence for the other person once one dies
                [11:13 PM] Mikey: yeah I decided you just softing me was obvious enough that wolves might think it was bait
                [11:13 PM] Mikey: I hope for DFR to die tonight, but I'd be happy with xiz or wayward to check off paranoia
                [11:14 PM] Mikey: if I don't die, it's gradiant/dfr
                [11:14 PM] Mikey: if I do die, it's haku/someone else
                [11:14 PM] raeko: i think they will kill a towny person and either of us is possible since a lot of people were defending you and nobody wolf read me
                [11:14 PM] Mikey: I think haku/gradiant is tough
                [11:14 PM] Mikey: because I feel like gradiant will not want to kill me
                [11:15 PM] raeko: yeah thats true
                [11:15 PM] raeko: he might want to kill me tho
                [11:15 PM] raeko: idk it honestly doesnt really matter if one of us dies at this point
                [11:15 PM] Mikey: yeah I kind of agree with that
                [11:15 PM] raeko: obv its better if we dont but i think we have enough of a foundation
                [11:15 PM] Mikey: exactly
                [11:15 PM] Mikey: got a strong PoE to work off of
                [11:15 PM] raeko: yupp
                [11:16 PM] Mikey: are we allowed to copypaste mason chat into the thread
                [11:16 PM] raeko: so what should we do tomorrow
                [11:16 PM] raeko: no
                [11:16 PM] Mikey: ah k
                [11:16 PM] Mikey: I'm gonna defer to you and suggest we try to go for gradiant
                [11:16 PM] Mikey: with only 7 players alive and based off of today's EoD we should be able to kill him
                [11:16 PM] raeko: yeah i think so too he seems sketchiest to me atm
                [11:17 PM] raeko: what about wc?
                [11:17 PM] Mikey: I really do think he's town
                [11:17 PM] Mikey: like the RP thing is sketchy, since as town he usually is more involved and likes to ask questions
                [11:17 PM] Mikey: and as a wolf he falls back on RP to "provide content"
                [11:17 PM] Mikey: but his "catch" of me talking as in a chat log seems like town him
                [11:17 PM] Mikey: it's close
                [11:18 PM] Mikey: but I'll say town
                [11:18 PM] raeko: i agree
                [11:18 PM] Mikey: yeah I feel good about wayward
                [11:19 PM] Mikey: xiz was initially town but I think reading me/haku as t/t could be wolfy
                [11:19 PM] Mikey: especially if he's partners with haku
                [11:20 PM] Mikey: also, I mentioned that DBP was town if gradiant was a wolf
                [11:20 PM] Mikey: I know it doesn't work backwards but
                [11:20 PM] Mikey: ye
                [11:20 PM] Mikey: yeah I think xiz is town too
                [11:20 PM] Mikey: him and DBP were kind of vibing
                [11:21 PM] Mikey: thesunfan is a wolf though
                [11:21 PM] Mikey: basically confirmed
                [11:21 PM] Mikey: I imagine you'll be rolecopped tonight
                [11:24 PM] Mikey: idk if this will be important
                [11:25 PM] Mikey: but if one of us dies and we get into a counterclaim fight
                [11:25 PM] Mikey: maybe we should have a code word
                [11:25 PM] Mikey: but there's not actually a code word
                [11:25 PM] Mikey: that might be hard to prove though idk
                [11:44 PM] raeko: ok
                [11:44 PM] raeko: we can do it idk what tho cause yeah how do we prove it
                [11:44 PM] raeko: if we get into a counter claim fight just quote old posts from me defending you
                [11:44 PM] raeko: emphasize that i had no reason to defend you
                [1:21 AM] raeko: just saw who cares post a status update on fb about being on a "bro" date and the "bro" even commented about the dinner
                [1:21 AM] raeko: me thinks he was playing up the date aspect maybe
                [1:21 AM] raeko: who cares = wayward vagabond
                [9:00 AM] Mikey: hey are you here
                [9:00 AM] Mikey: got 2 hours till phase change if you thought of anything new
                [9:01 AM] Mikey: unfortunately I didn't think about TWG in my sleep last night, so I'm at the same place
                [9:28 AM] raeko: im here but celery is about to pick me up and i wont be able to talk twg
                [9:28 AM] raeko: @Mikey are you here ill be here for a few mins
                [9:28 AM] raeko: that wc thing, keep it in mind, I think i got him maybe???
                [9:29 AM] raeko: if i die dont claim mason right away, but if you do have to claim, go hard and dont give up, dig through my history for proof
                [9:43 AM] Mikey: ah I'm making breakfast
                [9:43 AM] Mikey: so you flopped on wayward
                [9:43 AM] Mikey: sounds good, I'll keep it in mind if you rip
                [9:43 AM] Mikey: I think haku is a hit
                aka mikey

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                Originally posted by FreezinIce
                FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                Originally posted by QueenAshy
                I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                • Hakulyte
                  the Haku
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 4571

                  #9
                  Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

                  Well played Xiz !

                  I don't think I have much to add that wasn't already been said.

                  Sorry FFA for fake claiming while you had me as a top wolf.

                  I should have been more careful around that or found a better way around this.

                  Gotta control these feels better.

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                  • Hakulyte
                    the Haku
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 4571

                    #10
                    Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

                    I'm kinda ridiculous, I thought fake claiming mason would make everyone town read me because it's too stupid to be done by a wolf who wants to win.

                    The only problem is that this doesn't stop a wolf from doing it.

                    ..or I could just get town read by doing something towny.

                    :thinking:
                    Last edited by Hakulyte; 06-5-2018, 12:08 AM.

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                    • DaBackpack
                      ~ お ま ん こ ~
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 918

                      #11
                      Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

                      Originally posted by Hakulyte
                      I'm kinda ridiculous, I thought fake claiming mason would make everyone town read me because it's too stupid to be done by a wolf who wants to win.

                      The only problem is that this doesn't stop a wolf from doing it.

                      ..or I could just get town read by doing something towny.

                      :thinking:
                      the best way to be read as towny is to just be yourself


                      Originally posted by Moogy
                      no one cares
                      Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                      there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                      that's kind of a sad statistic

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                      • Wayward Vagabond
                        Confirmed Heartbreaker
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 5866

                        #12
                        Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

                        Wow raeko I was not playing up the date >: (

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                        • flashflash account
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 567

                          #13
                          Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

                          Wen gaem
                          aka mikey

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                          Originally posted by FreezinIce
                          FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                          Originally posted by QueenAshy
                          I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                          Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                          i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                          Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                          seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                          • Hakulyte
                            the Haku
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 4571

                            #14
                            Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

                            Is there a link to wolf chat somewhere ?

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                            • T-Force
                              Your world ends with you
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4753

                              #15
                              Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Postgame Thread

                              Originally posted by Celirra
                              first tforce
                              now xiz


                              Doctor. :handshake:
                              Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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