why do people hate on osu!mania??

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  • mrdawn2
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2016
    • 1

    #1

    why do people hate on osu!mania??

    everywhere i look on forums people just hate on osu all the time?
    why hate? it has lots of good things like a automatic rating system (star rate) which current sm 5 does not have nor ffr
    it also has a nice leaderboard system which are counted off pp which is very well maintained and is still is gonna have a massive overhaul to make it even better.
    together with having lots of different types of maps (from one to ten keys!) i dont see any reason to dislike it.
  • Fantasticone
    D7 Elite Keymasher
    • Aug 2006
    • 6003

    #2
    Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

    - Flawed rating system
    - Laggy for some people
    - Ranked charts not hard enough I heard
    - Column colors is very hard to get used to
    - Personally upscroll is not supported well enough for most skins

    Just some reasons here.

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    • blindreper1179
      Vice President Of TGB
      • Jun 2006
      • 5900

      #3
      Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

      It's garbage
      Originally posted by thesunfan
      absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
      Originally posted by choof
      It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
      Originally posted by choof
      whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
      Originally posted by Celirra
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      • PixlSM
        D7 Elite Keymasher
        • Jul 2017
        • 385

        #4
        Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

        Originally posted by mrdawn2
        everywhere i look on forums people just hate on osu all the time?
        why hate? it has lots of good things like a automatic rating system (star rate) which current sm 5 does not have nor ffr
        it also has a nice leaderboard system which are counted off pp which is very well maintained and is still is gonna have a massive overhaul to make it even better.
        together with having lots of different types of maps (from one to ten keys!) i dont see any reason to dislike it.

        star rating is trash because its based purely on max nps regardless of patterns (which in turn forces a meta in which mappers create heavily manipulatable maps so that they get popular and pushed for rank. on a side note the ranking system is flawed and run by idiots who cant tell the difference between streams and handstreams)

        the leaderboard is inclusive of all keymodes, which means that 7k players dominate it. its also based on pp, which is based on SR, which is complete shit

        also sure sm5 doesnt have it, but sm5 is trash. thats why we use etterna which has a rating system infinitely better than sr

        all the maps on osu are complete garbage save from converts from other games.

        skinning in om is super minimal and almost nothing can really be accomplished with it outside of putting fucking anime girls everywhere.

        it has a cancerous reddit-tier community that doesnt know the first thing about VSRG games and hivemind worships any half decent player they see.

        also the devs dont have a fucking clue about rhythm games in general and the whole game is a joke.

        oh yeah and their acc system is complete trash too. theres almost no punishment for missing notes
        Last edited by PixlSM; 11-16-2017, 03:16 PM.

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        • Walrusizer
          D7 Elite Keymasher
          • Aug 2014
          • 1080

          #5
          Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

          sure love me some "how fast can you smash ur keys!!!" leaderboards mmmmmmmm
          is expressing my inability to create a creative signature an act of creativity in and of itself?

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          • Mahou
            魔法少女
            • Jan 2006
            • 2153

            #6
            Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

            Originally posted by Fantasticone
            - Ranked charts not hard enough I heard
            There are some hard ranked charts. It's just the hard ones are usually the gay ones.
            Originally posted by lofty rhino
            one does not simply hate everyone that plays stepmania
            AND watch anime.

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            • Rapta
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              • Dec 2010
              • 1948

              #7
              Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

              Etterna > FFR > Osumania imo
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              • icontrolyourworld
                Enjoy life!
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2007
                • 4193

                #8
                Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

                Originally posted by PixlSM
                star rating is trash because its based purely on max nps regardless of patterns (which in turn forces a meta in which mappers create heavily manipulatable maps so that they get popular and pushed for rank. on a side note the ranking system is flawed and run by idiots who cant tell the difference between streams and handstreams)
                Stepmania didn't have a rating system outside of "user says it's this hard" that is by far the most inconsistent rating system possible. Etterna fixes this, but this is not an arguement for osumania being trash considering where stepmania has come from. This has nothing to do with the actual gameplay.

                Originally posted by PixlSM
                the leaderboard is inclusive of all keymodes, which means that 7k players dominate it. its also based on pp, which is based on SR, which is complete shit
                Leaderboards should not mean this much to you or anyone. It's cool to know that a player can top the ratings of any given video game, but to call osumania trash because the leaderboards require you to be better than someone else, well that's kind of silly. If osumania didn't have a leaderboard whatsoever, similar to how stepmania has been all these years would that make it equal to stepmania or better, or is the inclusion of a feature that stepmania has not had up to this point make osumania the worse game? What does that say about stepmania now having leaderboards in the form of etternaonline? Etterna does it better, but it's not something that inherently makes etterna better.

                Originally posted by PixlSM
                also sure sm5 doesnt have it, but sm5 is trash. thats why we use etterna which has a rating system infinitely better than sr
                You're really stuck to this rating thing. SM5 doesn't have it, sm3.95 doesn't have it, SM before etterna doesn't have it, we still played stepmania instead of osumania, even when osumania had a leaderboard. Why do you think that is? My personal opinion is the rating, and leaderboards do not mean anything for the actual gameplay.

                Originally posted by PixlSM
                all the maps on osu are complete garbage save from converts from other games.
                You are entitled to your opinion, I personally like maps/charts from both games.


                Originally posted by PixlSM
                skinning in om is super minimal and almost nothing can really be accomplished with it outside of putting fucking anime girls everywhere.
                I will also give you this one, stepmania has far superior options when it comes to skinning/themeing. But take into consideration that may not be the important thing behind stepmania when you suggest etterna is the best version of stepmania. We are currently funneled into 1 theme supported by etterna; Til'Death. I will say this when it comes to any game, gameplay before graphics.


                Originally posted by PixlSM
                it has a cancerous reddit-tier community that doesnt know the first thing about VSRG games and hivemind worships any half decent player they see.
                Every community will have its sourpatches, stepmania community included. Both games are community driven for the most part, and you can try to tie that into how both games are in their current states, especially including content provided by the community. As for the games at their core, the community did not actually create the actual game, just most of the content, so this statement i will still chalk up as it does not speak for the game.


                Originally posted by PixlSM
                also the devs dont have a fucking clue about rhythm games in general and the whole game is a joke.
                I'm not one to say what is and isn't a rhythm game or anything, so here's what google/wiki says: Rhythm game or rhythm action is a genre of music-themed action video game that challenges a player's sense of rhythm.

                I think that's a fair summary of what a rhythm game is. As to what makes it a joke I'm not 100% certain what you mean. It must be a very good joke considering its popularity.


                Originally posted by PixlSM
                oh yeah and their acc system is complete trash too. theres almost no punishment for missing notes
                This is kind of a silly statement considering both stepmania and osumania are about self improvement and self enjoyment. You set your own goals, challenge yourself, push your own limits. You can most definitely trash on either games scoring mechanics, but at the end of the day, it's an excuse not to get better.

                ~I enjoy OsuMania, Stepmania, and FFR, stepmania the most of the 3. I enjoy all 3 communities, I started playing osumania recently and the community has been warm and welcoming and downright absolutely has the best MP experience of the 3. You can play against very good players in all 3 games, make friends, experience new things, and not only that it's constant. I'm not here to defend stepmania, osumania, or FFR, but there is no way these statements have been indicative of the true experience of any of the 3 games. It's a lot of trash talk and I would really appreciate if everyone could put their differences aside and enjoy the game.

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                • icontrolyourworld
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                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4193

                  #9
                  Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

                  Originally posted by mrdawn2
                  everywhere i look on forums people just hate on osu all the time?
                  why hate? it has lots of good things like a automatic rating system (star rate) which current sm 5 does not have nor ffr
                  it also has a nice leaderboard system which are counted off pp which is very well maintained and is still is gonna have a massive overhaul to make it even better.
                  together with having lots of different types of maps (from one to ten keys!) i dont see any reason to dislike it.
                  I want to address OP as well.
                  People hate on osu for the same reasons people hate on stepmania. It's mostly because we (communities) can not set aside our differences and just have a good time. There have been hot arguments between the the 2 communities over trivial things that most often boils down to petty differences. Everyone is guilty, and we (communities) should take a mature step back and really take a hard look at each other. Neither game is bad, neither community wants to be the bad guys, but we all wind up rubbing off that way. You say you see hate on the forums all the time, it's most likely the vocal minority speaking here. Please if you want to enjoy stepmania you are absolutely welcome to come and play, the same should go for anyone wanting to play osumania; and if not then let it be water under the bridge.

                  I still stand by the leaderboards and star rating system are not especially important for osumania, the same for leaderboards and etterna rating system in etterna/stepmania. This is not to undermine anyone elses work on trying to build a good rating system, it's an incredibly useful tool to have to know approximately how hard something will be before you play it. But at the end of the day, the true value of either game is your own personally defined experience, how much fun you have, and what you want from the game.

                  Osumania has great support for 4k and 7k, along with other game modes, osu is not 100% core focused around 4k play, while stepmania pretty much is (and pretty good 6k play). This is where a lot of differences and arguments stem from, the simple matter of the fact is osu is not stepmania and never will be, and the same goes for stepmania never being osu. Osu is a whole package, taiko, osu standard, mania, ctb, there's so much variety, it's so open for many players, there's so much content, but on that same note stepmania has many more years of content specifically catered towards mostly 4k. Stepmania likely has the better 4k experience, but osumania i don't think is very far behind, we stand on the shoulders of giants, and progress has always been a way forward, both games are constantly generating user content. I think such dedication is beautiful, i welcome it with open heart and mind, and i enjoy both games.
                  Last edited by icontrolyourworld; 11-16-2017, 08:10 PM.

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                  • Walrusizer
                    D7 Elite Keymasher
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1080

                    #10
                    Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

                    osssssss doesnt even have rates




                    ur done son
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                    • icontrolyourworld
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                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4193

                      #11
                      Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

                      Originally posted by blindreper1179
                      It's garbage
                      This is the kind of garbage comments everyone should ignore.

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                      • leonid
                        I am leonid
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                        • Oct 2008
                        • 8080

                        #12
                        Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

                        osu is objectively better than ffr and if you think otherwise you are delusional



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                        • leonid
                          I am leonid
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 8080

                          #13
                          Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

                          one could prefer etterna if you don't care much about online ranking



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                          • Sidek
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 777

                            #14
                            Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

                            star rating = trash
                            lag = always
                            community = trash ( only the ones who decide what beatmaps can be get ranked )

                            well but exist a way to make rate beatmaps but not many people know how to do it

                            i play sometimes both games but only for fun.

                            forgot to say
                            both games do the same function .
                            Last edited by Sidek; 11-16-2017, 09:30 PM.

                            Bye.

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                            • icontrolyourworld
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                              • Oct 2007
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                              #15
                              Re: why do people hate on osu!mania??

                              Originally posted by Sidek
                              star rating = trash
                              lag = always
                              community = trash ( only the ones who decide what beatmaps can be get ranked )

                              well but exist a way to make rate beatmaps but not many people know how to do it

                              i play sometimes both games but only for fun.
                              star rating shouldn't have bearing on on your enjoyment of the game, stepmania has not had a good rating system until recently. osumania was ahead of the game, they beat us to the punch.

                              lag is a legitimate reason to not like the game, i personally rarely experience lag but that's case by case.

                              It's not cool to just slanderously rag on a community like this, it's this level of immaturity that perpetually gives both communities the idea that each other suck. Despite the bad cookies in both stepmania and osumania, you should put yourself above such idiotic bickering, it serves no good purpose.

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