STEPMAN controller design measurements and specifications for anyone who wants them

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  • Arch0wl
    Banned
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2002
    • 6344

    #1

    STEPMAN controller design measurements and specifications for anyone who wants them

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    measurements:


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    Background:

    A while ago Malcolm Torres (Bluhr) and I made this controller called the STEPMAN. It's basically a gigantic Pop'n Music controller made for DDR/Stepmania Doubles, with more space between the left/right arrows on each side than the up/down arrows.

    This is designed to play charts I basically made just for me to play. My fascination here is that there's a ton of movements/patterns that are possible with this setup that have never been explored by any chart author to my knowledge. I will release them eventually once I have enough to justify a pack.

    There are biomechanical reasons for the decision to space the buttons that way. This because (1) movements that involve taking the hand across up/down are slightly more difficult than movements that involve taking the hand across left/right, insofar as they use different muscles in your arm and shoulder to do this, and (2) with the buttons too close together you can just one-hand every song, which is really boring. We wanted to maximize movement across the buttons to a certain degree, without so much distance that you'd repeatedly miss the buttons.

    We used standard jumbo pop'n buttons for this controller, available here: https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/produc...de-Button.html

    So far, our initial version works well but it's EXTREMELY loud (louder than even the original Pop'n Music ASC controllers; I am trying to figure out a way to reduce noise) and up+down on the right side does not work but this is not a huge issue in the short-term. This is not too bad for my purposes, but long-term I will need better solutions.

    Anyway, I figured I'd post this here in case anyone wants to replicate this controller or even design a nicer one.
    Last edited by Arch0wl; 03-20-2017, 03:39 AM. Reason: image was too large
  • Jousway
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2009
    • 867

    #2
    Re: STEPMAN controller design measurements and specifications for anyone who wants th

    what did ya use for the pcb?
    Its not a bug its a FEATURE!



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    • Arch0wl
      Banned
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Dec 2002
      • 6344

      #3
      Re: STEPMAN controller design measurements and specifications for anyone who wants th

      Originally posted by Jousway
      what did ya use for the pcb?
      I am not 100% on this, but we bought some kind of USB console controller -- I think SNES --from Amazon and Malcolm rewired that one.

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      • Snapps
        NO DOUBT GET LOUD
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2003
        • 5650

        #4
        Re: STEPMAN controller design measurements and specifications for anyone who wants th

        i fully expected the ultimate rhythm game controller that you passionately showcased using mspaint years ago

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        • Jousway
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2009
          • 867

          #5
          Re: STEPMAN controller design measurements and specifications for anyone who wants th

          Originally posted by Arch0wl
          I am not 100% on this, but we bought some kind of USB console controller -- I think SNES --from Amazon and Malcolm rewired that one.
          man what a waste, also way more work than what I use :P this is what I use http://www.ebay.com/itm/222045406991 in my pop'n controller and my own stepmania controller that i made 3 years ago
          Its not a bug its a FEATURE!



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          • dAnceguy117
            new hand moves = dab
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2002
            • 10097

            #6
            Re: STEPMAN controller design measurements and specifications for anyone who wants th

            those look like pretty fun manias tbh.

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