Ambition: Can it be bred by anybody?

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ambition is what people who haven't figured out the world yet fabricate to convince themselves they aren't wasting their lives

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Ahhh I see we have a pessimistic side of the spectrum. Great, just what I need to bring my point home.

People who haven't figured out the world? Interesting, I notice from your entire statement you've decided life is about working, living, and dying. You rather look at the glass half empty then half full. I'll take you think everyone is destined to the same dull fate as the 99%. But because you think everyone is destined to follow the same path, you fall in that category with the one's who see no hope.

The world has alot of bad. But it comes with the vast amount of good in it. Ambition is for the ones who have the hunger to strive for what is best for their life. If you have no positive perspective for your fate, you will live a pointless existence because you feed your mind that kind of fuel.

Ambition is striving to self actualize your entire being or in other words, reach your full potential.

Pessimist don't bother me because I know how powerful the energy of righteous wisdom is.

There's no need for Nietzche followers in this discussion. I have the mind of a Spinoza.
( Philosophy Reference)

you're so far off the mark it's almost pitiful

but not unexpected from someone who would make a thread like this in the first place

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I like how you denote me with no worthy points or remarks. You rather slander my point of view then find any reason for it. Sounds to me your very insecure about the life you lead. But I guess i'm just a pitiful example of somebody who is delirious from my "fabricated world" right?
Im also going to guess you have no ambition in your life. But you can't save everybody.
If you study all the successful philosophers in history from Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, to Voltaire, they continued to grow and learn from a hyper active sense of ambition. And they continue to live on because of it. The ones who dont have that type of ambition, fail to stamp their name ln history.
Do you consider everyone that is successful and joyous in their life lucky? They learn and grow continously to make it that way.
I think you need to take out a pen and a pad, its time to take notes.

Ill go ahead and direct this statement towards both pessimist in this discussion.

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I'll take it that all your 3000+ posts have no backbone or relevance in it like these posts. -.-
Atleast make a stand for your beliefs with evidence or worthy remarks rather than slander or frown upon a thought. I hope you sleep well knowing you have no ambition in your "fabricated" world. I just hope its the flouride in your toothpaste talking and not your soul. Because if it is, its just as lifeless as your ambition.....

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I've dealt with enough pessimist in my lifetime. She'll never admit im right even though it might eat her up. At the same time she wont bring any valid points into light.
Her ammunition is weak. She's not dealing with her typical run of a mill optimist.

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Can everyone possess it? no
Is it an emotion we breed by ourselves? I believe that those who possess it are pushed in an ambitious direction by an external force initially and then through a series of simple and complex psychological processess develop it themselves.
Why do some people have it and others don't? There are many different kinds of people and things in the circle of life and it only takes one ambitious person to provide for many. When I was a young lad I was compelled by an unknown force to have a revelation about god which soon became the driving force in my personal decisions and ambitious aims. It has been a long journey since then in which I have taken a keen interest in psychology and have numerously played the roles of student, teacher, thinker, and scribe. There are many different forms of ambition as we can see from the world we live in. Ambition for me is still a struggle with humility and knowing the difference between greed and true desire.

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Maybe people are realising their full potential; the individual differences of which are dependent on the individual. Maybe you are exactly where you want to be in life. We decide for ourselves. If you aren't where you want to be, you'll change it.

I guess the argument here is that this is just human nature.

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Finally! Somebody with legitimate points!!!

Wow. Very insightful. I appreciate the wise words. That truly came from the heart. I admire people of your stature who don't coincide with what is trendy or popular. Thanks for sharing that personal experience, that reveals inner wisdom in your nature.

"Ambition for me is still a struggle with humility and knowing the difference between greed and true desire."
^ worded like a true disciple of the Creator. Beautifully worded like a natural scholar of life.

Glad to know there are people here worth my time to listen to and write for. You definetly made this post worthwhile with that one simple comment.

Couldn't agree more, thanks again for sharing your knowledge.


Truemaestro: Theres alot of rationality and logic behind your statement, I see your point and it does make sense.
The ones who are content with their life have no need to be ambitious because they are happy with their circumstances.
But that raises a new question:
Does being content with your entire life supress a ambitious mentality ??

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Fine

"Ahhh (comma) I see we have a pessimistic (?) side of the spectrum." (It's a spectrum.)

"Great, just what I need to bring my point home." (What point? The first post was a bunch of quasi-philosophical questions that provoked no thought, and, quite frankly, were suggestive and annoying.)

"People who haven't figured out the world? Interesting." (Yours? Hypocritical to this whole post.)

"I notice from your entire statement you've decided life is about working." (I know Minaciousgrace personally, and I can say with 100% honesty that this is the worst extrapolation on someone elses character I have ever heard.)

"The world has a(space)lot of bad. But it comes with the vast amount of good in it." (Wholly subjective.)

"Ambition is for the ones who have the hunger to strive for what is best for their life. If you have no positive perspective for your fate, you will live a pointless existence." (Since when does negative mean pointless? Since when does pointless mean negative?)

"Ambition is striving to self actualize your entire being or in other words, reach your full potential." (Might as well be spilling fruitloops from your mouth.)

*Also, there are more grammatical errors riddled through this. I pointed out a few to knock you down a peg.*

"Pessimist don't bother me because I know how powerful the energy of righteous wisdom is." (Except you rant, delete comments, and throw insults at people proving that you are, in-fact, bothered by a challenge to your philosophy.)

"There's no need for Nietzche followers in this discussion. I have the mind of a Spinoza.(Philosophy Reference)"

(Obnoxious parenthetical suggesting none of us know who you are referencing wrapping this whole great post in a smug, pretentious, and self-absorbed bow. THE PICTURE OF "RIGHTEOUS WISDOM"!!!!! If I were to guess the bow would be the color of dog shit. I can give you some gold leafing to sprinkle on it.)

No.

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philosophy is science for people who can't count

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Bravo!!! He finally has some valid points!!!:even though they have absolutely nothing with the topic of "ambition" and has everything to do with how incorrect I express my thoughts and ideas.

Everyone can have their own personal opinion. And everyone stands up for their beliefs. If I stated what I believe, then that is what I know from my perspective. Obiviously you have a reason you act and think as you do. Myself included.
And yes my grammar needs work, thanks for the pointers. You definetly knocked me down some pegs with that one. I've been out of school for 7 years, feel free to give me some english and spelling classes. I'll admit I need work in that area.
Wow, am I truly that self pretentious? I apologize, didn't mean to come off that way. Simply stating my perspective. Glad your warming up to me, just try not to be so pompous when you point out somebodies errors.

Anyways, I like the way this entire thread is heading. Definetly a conversation starter.

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At what point does one reach being completely content? It is human nature to want to grow and learn. There will always be something new one might want to learn more about or experience.

Maybe you need to define what you mean by ambition. Your "Ambition is striving to self actualize your entire being or in other words, reach your full potential." doesn't really seem to mean anything.

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If my points on the "topic" aren't valid, then one can only assume from this post that my points about your foolishness are.

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