[Label] Trekkie Trax

**inDheart** · 08-7-2016, 04:40 PM

Re: [Label] Trekkie Trax

this is also of interest to me because of what it means for other CC labels/releases getting on FFR. i brought this up on discord and some people vaguely expressed reservations that some on staff may possibly have had or do still have with FFR using CC music based on that licensing alone.

and i know you wanted maltine permissions before; they used to be under this very license but have since scrubbed that info from their site.

**Ghost_Medley** · 08-7-2016, 04:57 PM

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if permission is allowed, then we could have a few nice songs like "seimei & taimei - galaxy (drum'n'bass vip)" and "miii - far away (about three kilometers)" that people could make stepcharts for

**James May** · 08-7-2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost_Medley

if permission is allowed, then we could have a few nice songs like "seimei & taimei - galaxy (drum'n'bass vip)" and "miii - far away (about three kilometers)" that people could make stepcharts for

If it does get through, I will convert AMUNOA's Sampling Magic and matra magic's Grid Compassfor FFR

**James May** · 08-7-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by inDheart

this is also of interest to me because of what it means for other CC labels/releases getting on FFR. i brought this up on discord and some people vaguely expressed reservations that some on staff may possibly have had or do still have with FFR using CC music based on that licensing alone.

and i know you wanted maltine permissions before; they used to be under this very license but have since scrubbed that info from their site.

I figured, but that's why I emailed maltine records instead of just grabbing songs from them and sending it because the info was unclear to me at the time. Trekkie Trax does have the info present but I want to publically run by the mods and whoever handles the permissions before doing something like sending Sampling Magic and Grid Compass to here.

**Ghost_Medley** · 08-7-2016, 06:05 PM

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https://soundcloud.com/trekkie-trax/...tellabee-remix not specifically about stepcharting and ffr but there are some pretty intense songs that are in the EPs under trekkie trax

**noname219** · 08-7-2016, 06:16 PM

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I might need to dig further about this label (if they have any conditions listed somewhere), but a CC BY-NC license would allow us to us the music anywhere we want, remix/cut it, etc.

However, as a rule of thumb, we want to inform the artist and the label how and where their content is used. It has worked this way for years and it should stay this way imo. It's extremely unlikely that a label with a cc license would prohibit us for using their content if we ask them anyway. Quoting Tass :

Originally posted by Tasselfoot

i tend to still not accept CC licenses... not because it isn't valid... but because i don't like using an artist's stuff without them knowing, even if they're cool with it. i want them to want to be on FFR, to be pumped about being on FFR, etc etc.

so, given that statement... it does seem they would be fine with use on FFR. someone want to send them an email about it?

So, what next ? Send an email to the label to ask if we can use their music in FFR.

**James May** · 08-7-2016, 07:00 PM

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Alrighty. I'll give them an email when I have the chance or someone else can if they want to. And yoy can dig a bit further if you want to noname.

**James May** · 08-7-2016, 07:22 PM

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Just sent an email to the label. Hopefully I get an email soon.

**James May** · 08-7-2016, 07:36 PM

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Good news everyone

Edit: Since they say that their product is released under the CC license and told me to refer to there, that would make it good to go since its not being released for radio, movies, tv shows, or anything that requires to have a fee.

**noname219** · 08-7-2016, 08:02 PM

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Well, that was fast!

"We usually take music fee for use of our release for Websites, TV Radio shows, Movies, and so on."

If I understand this correctly, they ask for a fee for any use that generates a profit since it's not covered by their license.
Since FFR is non-profit*, we're ok to use their music.

*I'm not sure that FFR is entirely NonCommercial, it can get quite complicated and there are many grey areas.

**James May** · 08-7-2016, 08:08 PM

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But the result is that we don't generate profit from using their songs, therefore we should be safe to use their songs for FFR correct?

**inDheart** · 08-7-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by noname219

*I'm not sure that FFR is entirely NonCommercial, it can get quite complicated and there are many grey areas.

is there some practice in particular that you think makes FFR not a non-commercial site?

**noname219** · 08-7-2016, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by James May

But the result is that we don't generate profit from using their songs, therefore we should be safe to use their songs for FFR correct?

Originally posted by inDheart

is there some practice in particular that you think makes FFR not a non-commercial site?

We should be safe. I'm trying to determine if FFR status is in a grey zone considering we're doing promotion on social networks (Twitter, Facebook).

**James May** · 08-7-2016, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by noname219

We should be safe. I'm trying to determine if FFR status is in a grey zone considering we're doing promotion on social networks (Twitter, Facebook).

I think Social Media is safe since we're not selling any product that pertains to the artists that we obtained permission.

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