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  • _Zenith_
    Accuracy Player
    • Mar 2011
    • 4629

    #1

    FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

    I was just listening to some Apocalyptica and Lindsey Sterling, and it would be great to see if there could be a flux of these types of songs that are based around string instruments.

    However, permission has always been a hassle, but if it were possible, it would be a great idea to create these types of files (regardless of difficulty). If anyone would want to do this, I encourage them because there are plenty of great classical pieces and orchestrated songs.

    What do you guys think about this?
    Last edited by _Zenith_; 11-18-2014, 06:09 PM.





  • hi19hi19
    lol happy
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #2
    Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

    Permission.


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    • _Zenith_
      Accuracy Player
      • Mar 2011
      • 4629

      #3
      Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      Permission.
      Yeah, I heard that Permission is the biggest problem that exists in being a Stepartist. Bummer, there needs to be a way that FFR could adopt that same legal permission similar to what Osu! has, but then there would probably be a copyright situation and all that crap.





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      • Xiz
        TWG Chaos
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Feb 2012
        • 3399

        #4
        Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

        The classical/jazz industry for permission getting is a lot more difficult then something simple like EDM or underground artists.

        I haven't tried a lot of the classical / jazz record labels recently, I can give it a go if people want.

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        • choof
          Banned
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Nov 2013
          • 8563

          #5
          Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

          I'd step the shit out of some jazz if we got permission from some good artists

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          • Xiz
            TWG Chaos
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2012
            • 3399

            #6
            Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

            In my last visit to SanFran, I had a few drinks with this one guy who did publicity for a jazz record label. I'll give him a ring and see what happens.

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            • _Zenith_
              Accuracy Player
              • Mar 2011
              • 4629

              #7
              Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

              Originally posted by Xiz
              In my last visit to SanFran, I had a few drinks with this one guy who did publicity for a jazz record label. I'll give him a ring and see what happens.
              At least we got a start if he rings back :^)

              All I need is this new laptop to work and I could give it a shot





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              • dell2150
                FFR Veteran
                • Sep 2008
                • 397

                #8
                Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                Someone get permission from Reign of Kindo. They're INCREDIBLY talented musicians and sort of a jazz/fusion. I know they were signed with candyrat records and I'm not sure if they still are. I did sit down with the lead singer in a McDonald's for over an hour though, and he was super nice. If it was up to him, I'm positive they'd say yes because he is just passionate about the music and genuinely wants people to enjoy it in whatever way they can.
                This one has unexpected changes at 1:05 and then another drastic one at 3:57. They have a lot of jazzy stuff, but overall very awesome.


                Also my music is considered contemporary classical (although there is a black MIDI song as well as a bubble bobble piano/voice cover.. ignore those). They're not that great, and all of them are composition assignments for 20th Century Techniques class that I took last year. I also don't think they'd make amazing files but they are not copyrighted and I would gladly give mp3's if anyone would be interested in stepping any of them.


                However, most classical/orchestral music is public domain if you just get it from composers who have been dead for over 70 years (basically any Baroque, Classical, or Romantic composer - which is all that really matters in classical music.. Nobody cares about turn of the century or 20th century like Schoenberg). The biggest problem from then is making sure the recording is not copyrighted, as in many cases it may be. I do agree we should have more classical though! Definitely!


                P.S. someone told me to link this to hi19hi19 so here you go. We need perms from this and you should step it because it's friggin amazing
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3S6Ijmv01I
                Last edited by dell2150; 11-18-2014, 02:23 PM.

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                • hi19hi19
                  lol happy
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 12194

                  #9
                  Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                  I would love to step some Reign of Kindo for FFR if someone could get permission.
                  If I recall correctly though they're signed to Candyrat (or were) so it could be a bit of a challenge.
                  Though Candyrat seems like a pretty chill label so who knows.
                  (omg if someone gets Candyrat blanket... Andy McKee, Antoine Dufour, Ewan Dobson... step ALL THE GUITAR SONGS)

                  That said...
                  Originally posted by dell2150
                  (basically any Baroque, Classical, or Romantic composer - which is all that really matters in classical music.. Nobody cares about turn of the century or 20th century like Schoenberg)
                  You just indirectly insulted Kapustin.

                  I don't think we can be friends anymore.

                  Originally posted by dell2150
                  P.S. someone told me to link this to hi19hi19 so here you go. We need perms from this and you should step it because it's friggin amazing
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3S6Ijmv01I
                  Noted.
                  Cool song. Bit long, takes a while to get going, surprisingly low rhythmic variation.
                  Unfortunately I think I would either wind up making this somewhat easy, or a jacks-and-trills-to-marimba dump.
                  Last edited by hi19hi19; 11-18-2014, 02:32 PM.


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                  • Poison-
                    Nope
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3772

                    #10
                    Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                    I got permission for Evan Duffy and Kyle Landry if those count

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                    • hi19hi19
                      lol happy
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 12194

                      #11
                      Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                      lol FFR already technically had permission from Kyle Landry for years, he replied to my comment asking for permission on some video (probably one on his account that got deleted)

                      I sent a screenshot of it to Tass a long time ago but evidently it never made it to the Artist Permission post and I've never finished stepping one of his songs.
                      Part of the problem is they're all a bit long and, being live piano music, really hard to cut naturally.
                      I could try finishing one sometime.

                      Good that you have made the permission much more official now though.
                      Last edited by hi19hi19; 11-18-2014, 02:31 PM.


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                      • Poison-
                        Nope
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3772

                        #12
                        Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        lol FFR already technically had permission from Kyle Landry for years, he replied to my comment asking for permission on some video (probably one on his account that got deleted)

                        I sent a screenshot of it to Tass a long time ago but evidently it never made it to the Artist Permission post and I've never finished stepping one of his songs.
                        Part of the problem is they're all a bit long and, being live piano music, really hard to cut naturally.
                        I could try finishing one sometime.

                        Good that you have made the permission much more official now though.
                        He sent me a few mp3s the other night and a couple of them were short. I can send them to you to look at if you want

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                        • ilikexd
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 3208

                          #13
                          Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                          Whoa, you actually have that contact with Kyle Landry?

                          I was thinking of some sort of cut of his arrangement of Time, and probably other things if I ever get around to listening to more than just a few pieces of his fairly large collection.

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                          • Poison-
                            Nope
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3772

                            #14
                            Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                            Originally posted by ilikexd
                            Whoa, you actually have that contact with Kyle Landry?

                            I was thinking of some sort of cut of his arrangement of Time, and probably other things if I ever get around to listening to more than just a few pieces of his fairly large collection.
                            Yeah he emailed me out of the blue the other night sounding super excited to get some of his stuff into the game, so he sent me some pieces he thought would be suitable. Since I'm not the greatest at syncing it takes me quite a while to step, but I'd love to see what a veteran stepartist could do with his stuff.

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                            • ilikexd
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 3208

                              #15
                              Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                              I'd definitely like to see those pieces that he thought would be suitable.

                              And, yeah, they can be difficult to step because it's a live performance, so the BPM will always be slightly drifting in addition to natural tempo changes in the piece.
                              Last edited by ilikexd; 11-18-2014, 02:54 PM.

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