My first legit attempt at a pad file

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  • dragonmegaXX
    ITG playing fur
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jul 2008
    • 3661

    #1

    My first legit attempt at a pad file

    Title says it all. Spent the past few hours, and a couple yesterday working on this.

    I like to think it's pretty fun/ not terrible.

    Any comments or ratings would be cool ^^

    Rainbow Tylenol(Kitsune^2)
    Expert Chart: 12

    I recorded in DDReam, and it came out a little small, so watch in fullscreen

  • Ohaider
    FFR Veteran
    • Jun 2012
    • 2893

    #2
    Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

    LoL

    Looks fun and lovely song

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    • Choofers
      FFR Player
      FFR Music Producer
      • Dec 2008
      • 6205

      #3
      Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

      WHY THE **** DID YOU STEP THIS GODAWFUL SONG FUC

      not downloading solely based on song choice, pick a better song next time

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      • Ohaider
        FFR Veteran
        • Jun 2012
        • 2893

        #4
        Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

        aw^

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        • dragonmegaXX
          ITG playing fur
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2008
          • 3661

          #5
          Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

          Originally posted by Choofers
          WHY THE **** DID YOU STEP THIS GODAWFUL SONG FUC

          not downloading solely based on song choice, pick a better song next time
          thanks for the criticism Ill be sure to incorporate it into my next file ^^












          ass

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          • Choofers
            FFR Player
            FFR Music Producer
            • Dec 2008
            • 6205

            #6
            Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

            This song has been stepped so many times, by new and old simfile artists alike. Why you would step this song as your first legit simfile is fucen beyond me.

            I'll look at the file when I get home, but seriously, pick something more original than this garbage ass song next time. And yes, this is criticism. Why would I play this file over anyone elses, especially if this is your first file? Is that what people can expect from you as a new simfile artist? Resteps and furry music?

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            • kommisar
              Dark Chancellor
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Jun 2005
              • 7328

              #7
              Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

              For pad, the file has really awkward patterns and is very one-sided. Also lots of rhythms were missed.


              this song has been stepped as much as sjc's sister

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              • dragonmegaXX
                ITG playing fur
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jul 2008
                • 3661

                #8
                Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

                I've got some other files Im working on that hopefully arent as overstepped :V Ill post those when I finish those then.

                @Kommi, I put a couple awkward patterns on purpose in there although I did realize at some point it was too one sided :s Tried fixing it in a couple spots, because it was worse.

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                • Choofers
                  FFR Player
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6205

                  #9
                  Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

                  "oops someone called out my awkward pattern usage so uh it's actually on purpose"

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                  • dragonmegaXX
                    ITG playing fur
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3661

                    #10
                    Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

                    Actually it's more that I've played some awkward patterns that I thought were fun and challenging so I wanted to use them.

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                    • moches
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3996

                      #11
                      Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

                      Originally posted by Choofers
                      "oops someone called out my awkward pattern usage so uh it's actually on purpose"
                      somebody's grumpy today

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                      • Choofers
                        FFR Player
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 6205

                        #12
                        Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

                        Originally posted by moches
                        somebody's grumpy today
                        and I have no idea why rofl

                        I think that long island iced tea rustled my jimmies because it was disgusting but I drank it anyway

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                        • TC_Halogen
                          Rhythm game specialist.
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 19376

                          #13
                          Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

                          One of the issues that I'm seeing with this chart is a lot of ambiguous entries/exits out of patterns, particularly short 16ths that lead into unintentional double-stepping if you follow them without switching feet.

                          example: 25 seconds in, following your pattern properly leads you to hit down with your left foot, down/up with left/right respectively, and then up/right with right/left respectively (i.e. crossed over). The issue isn't that you're crossed over, though -- it's when you try to hit the up/right/left pattern immediately after, as you're completely twisted about. (Same thing happens 19 seconds in, but in a slightly different way.)

                          The right arrow at 0:41 is a double step (and not really transcribed/shown to be intentional). At 0:53, you have you double step from the 16th note up arrow to get back into the pattern (minor, but looks very amateurish).

                          MAJOR ISSUE - at 0:58, you end a sequence leaving the player crossed over and only give them 1/8th of a note to realize that they have to come into a trill -- a good majority of the people who play this the first time will come into that trill horribly. That pattern needs to be changed.

                          The green/yellow flam at 1:08 is a mis-rhythm, and is poor pattern choice into the next sequence, since it forces you to double step in with little reaction time/no way to know.

                          MAJOR ISSUE: 1:15 -- you have a doublestep in a 16th stream, and as if that wasn't an issue enough, you have to reposition yourself to take an onslaught of 32nd trills (which is not correct rhythmically). If a player doesn't realize that they have to make a double step there and actually follows the pattern, they will more than likely fail here.

                          Similar patterning issues happen from here to the end of the chart due to occasional copy pasting, and I don't have too much time to go through them all since I have to go to sleep. Also, kommisar is correct - the chart does seem to face right for quite a bit.

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                          • wildfireskunk
                            Purveyor of tea
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 1247

                            #14
                            Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

                            Halogen has pretty much gone over most of the points I'd want to bring up, but I'll go through the video and annotate my thoughts as we go anyways.


                            Although first of all I'll repeat that the right facing bias in this is so extreme that it needs to be changed. When I make files, if I really feel that I need to copy/paste parts of the chart due to similar rhythms I'll usually mirror them as there's nothing more boring and playing a chart that sees you facing one way the entire time.

                            The jumps that don't 'flow' with the direction of the chart at 0:19 and 0:25 seconds aren't much of an issue imo, as I'd not cross my foot over to hit them if I were playing.

                            At 0:53 seconds the double step doesn't feel particularly natural at that part of the song and I'd rather see it flow better there. The one Halogen mentioned at 0:41 seems fine to me, I'd naturally double step it and not think twice about it being a problem.

                            58 seconds though, Halogen is totally right. As a player I'd hate the turn you put in just before that anyways, but you really need to cleanup the exit as you can't even reasonably do a quick turnaround to hit the UR in a manner that would lead you into the trill comfortably. If the DURDUR at the end of the pattern was DURLDU it'd flow a lot better, but I'd recommend just removing the turn unless you add a lot more to the chart and make it a very twisty chart.

                            The same kinda thing applies at 1:08 as it's the same as at 0:58 just without the trill to jump into.

                            Those 32nds are pretty uncalled for imo. As well as the fact that they'd be really really not fun to play, I think it sounds like it should be 24ths or perhaps rolls like you used both earlier, and after that portion. And the doublestep in the stream leading to it certainly needs to go, as even if you managed to cheat it it'd not be fun.

                            1:27, as you come out of the 16th and into that first jump, turning into the next one looks really uncomfortable.


                            And that's all of the things I think I'd point out as a player.

                            To be honest the small hiccups in charting like the doublesteps and such are common mistakes from beginner chartists, and they're easy to fix and look out for in the future so don't feel too bad about those. The biggest problem in my eyes is the right facing bias. Change that in this chart and get into the habit of making sure it doesn't happen in other charts as that makes charts boring, and that's worse than the occasional doublestep by a mile.

                            Anywho, keep on making pad files! When I get my machine back I'll look forward to playing a few by you
                            ITG guru, FFR noob, wants to hug every cat.

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                            • ddr_f4n
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 3807

                              #15
                              Re: My first legit attempt at a pad file

                              Yeah, TC_Halogen pretty much gone over what I wanted to say about it.

                              The major issues with this chart are the double-steps all over the place, facing the right a lot of the time, and footswitching in the middle of jumps. Also, A LOT of ambiguous steps (the chart starts off with an ambiguous up arrow).

                              A good way to test it out is to play with your own two feet, try to mimic the chart if you can. If you feel you had to hit two arrows with one foot consecutively and unintentionally, it's a double step and should be fixed. Pad charts are meant for the feet to keep alternating with each other for a more fun factor.
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