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  • gold stinger
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    #331
    Re: Song Corrections Thread

    Fixed up to here. Thanks again to everyone taking the time to compare and do the sleuthing to find these discrepancies and the issues needing fixing <3
    Last edited by gold stinger; 02-25-2023, 10:49 PM.
    Originally posted by YoshL
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    • Snupeh
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      #332
      Re: Song Corrections Thread

      Apparently, level numbers of these five tokens indicated as zero on this page.


      Another token correction:

      Touhou Judgment in the Sixtieth Year
      Touhou Judgment in the Sixtieth Year ~ Fate of Sixty Years
      Last edited by Snupeh; 02-27-2023, 05:56 AM.

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      • gold stinger
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        #333
        Re: Song Corrections Thread

        Originally posted by Snupeh
        Apparently, level numbers of these five tokens indicated as zero on this page.


        Another token correction:

        Touhou Judgment in the Sixtieth Year
        Touhou Judgment in the Sixtieth Year ~ Fate of Sixty Years
        Completed token correction, but cannot fix level ID of 0.

        Reason being that internally, is that if the ID had a valid song number, that song number would then be locked under the conditions of that token. We change it to 0 instead so that the locked song is ID 0 (which doesn't exist), and the pre-existing ID is now public.

        Removing the token field and its spot altogether on the list would be disastrous for the back-end so we don't talk about it.
        Originally posted by YoshL
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        • jh05013
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          #334
          Re: Song Corrections Thread

          [Cut] and [Full Version] tags are inconsistent: some of them use () instead of [], and some use (Short Cut). Pwntendo and Schmollbluk don't have the [Cut] tag.

          There are some exceptions however (there may be more):
          - Our Journey and Epilogue. (92) is not exactly a cut version; there are slight differences between BMS (92) and full version (95) for e.g. ending tempo.
          - !!!Chaos Time!!! (Uncut Ed!t!on) should use () since it's a part of the song title.
          Last edited by jh05013; 04-14-2023, 03:56 AM.
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          • bmah
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            #335
            Re: Song Corrections Thread

            I personally am not a fan of even acknowledging that a song is cut in the title of the song. IMO there shouldn't be cut tags (unless the word "cut" was explicitly written in the song title from the author). As you've alluded, it gets tricky figuring out what constitutes a cut and what is not. So I'm for removing cut tags.
            Last edited by bmah; 04-15-2023, 12:02 AM.

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            • XelNya
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              #336
              Re: Song Corrections Thread

              Originally posted by bmah
              I personally am not a fan of even acknowledging that a song is cut in the title of the song. IMO there shouldn't be cut tags (unless the word "cut" was explicitly written in the song title from the author). As you've alluded, it gets tricky figuring out what constitutes a cut and what is not. So I'm for removing cut tags.
              Would probably more prefer it move to the side bar, rather than the title. I think noting there's more to listen to is important, but if the argument is for consistency, a lot of the music in the game is a cut, and it's not acknowledged, a lot of the recent Rapta files had notable cuts at the end of them. Even my Nightfall file is a cut that I didn't note.

              So it's probably for the better we pick if noting cuts is important, maybe a poll in discord would be good here, or if the site thinks it's not as important.

              But then it leads to a mess if the song is a (cut) [Explicit] sort of ordeal.

              So if we're not going to migrate the information to the side, I'd probably favor cutting it from the titles regardless.

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              • gold stinger
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                #337
                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                [Cut] and [Full Version] was mainly used to denote separation between 2 copies of the same song with notable difference in length, because people generally like to know in advance if they're getting themselves into a 4+ minute endeavor or not with 2 or more songs of the same name.

                I think a lot of people already agreed some time ago that they just wanted to swap to v1, v2, etc. to denote separation between the same songs.

                It's more vague if you strip [Cut] and [Full Version] altogether but if people want v1, v2, etc. for those as well it can be done.
                Last edited by gold stinger; 04-15-2023, 11:59 AM.
                Originally posted by YoshL
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                • bmah
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                  #338
                  Re: Song Corrections Thread

                  people generally like to know in advance if they're getting themselves into a 4+ minute endeavor or not with 2 or more songs of the same name.
                  This is actually a similar rationale to arguments relating to song author tags in song titles to reduce confusion. To both of these cases, I'm wondering what the heck the song parameters are doing then. Do people not read them? Or would it be better to have song details shown with a simple arrow hover over a song as opposed to clicking on it?

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                  • jh05013
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                    #339
                    Re: Song Corrections Thread

                    How Things Went Wrong and its author Goreshit should both be all lowercase.

                    As for author tags, there are situations where the metadata are not immediately available. Some examples I can think of are tier points (you can't access any metadata) and the dropdown menu of all the songs in a chart webpage (accessing the metadata takes more than just a click).
                    Last edited by jh05013; 05-8-2023, 09:31 AM.
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                    • SubaruPoptart
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                      #340
                      Re: Song Corrections Thread

                      Terra Liberty [3580]: Genre's set to "Dance 2" when the style is Power Metal. Seems like it should be Rock.

                      Plastic Mind [3583] & C204 [3105]: XelNya's name isn't properly capitalized in the stepauthor category. Xelnya -> XelNya






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                      • gold stinger
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                        #341
                        Re: Song Corrections Thread

                        In my defense, it would never need fixes if Xel did metadata correctly <3

                        fixed up to here. Don't have an answer for ya on that 2nd one jh, that's Velo territory, I let him know of it.
                        Originally posted by YoshL
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                        • jh05013
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                          #342
                          Re: Song Corrections Thread

                          floating point should be all lowercase.
                          mumei.sm: the minipack

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                          • sellyme
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                            #343
                            Re: Song Corrections Thread

                            "Pink Cloud " has an erroneous trailing space; it used to have " (feat. Max Collins)" at the end of its name and the space was left there when this got moved into the Artist field. The correct name should just be "Pink Cloud"

                            (This may be the most nitpicky correction ever)

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                            • jh05013
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                              #344
                              Re: Song Corrections Thread

                              parallel skydive should be all lowercase.
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                              • gold stinger
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                                #345
                                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                                Originally posted by sellyme
                                "Pink Cloud " has an erroneous trailing space; it used to have " (feat. Max Collins)" at the end of its name and the space was left there when this got moved into the Artist field. The correct name should just be "Pink Cloud"

                                (This may be the most nitpicky correction ever)
                                Nonsense, this is actually fantastic sleuthing work! I appreciate you sending this in. It is now fixed.

                                Originally posted by jh05013
                                parallel skydive should be all lowercase.
                                This should be fixed now, along with floating point.
                                Originally posted by YoshL
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