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  • Crazyjayde
    FFR Veteran
    • May 2007
    • 1169

    #151
    Re: Song Corrections Thread

    We are back into it for the last straw.

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    • noname219
      FFR Wiki Admin
      • May 2007
      • 1694

      #152
      Re: Song Corrections Thread

      Yeah, about 40-45% done on my side (A-B and R-Z is done). A few things will need to be decided (classical songs, how to display remix/cover/feats musicians, newgrounds accentuated titles, etc.)... I won't give any ETA but expect something soon at the pace I'm going.

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      • Crazyjayde
        FFR Veteran
        • May 2007
        • 1169

        #153
        Re: Song Corrections Thread

        Also, it's always fun lurking in the forum's early days, looking for answers.

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        • hi19hi19
          lol happy
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2005
          • 12194

          #154
          Re: Song Corrections Thread

          Random bump but I just want to say how incredibly useful this thread and the wiki are for finding information about oldass FFR songs.

          Thanks for all your hard work.


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          • lurker
            ur worst nitemare
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jan 2003
            • 1628

            #155
            Re: Song Corrections Thread

            as noted by multiple people during the judging process, the credits for follow you should be as follows:
            title: Follow You (Virtual Riot Remix)
            artist: Au5 feat. Danyka Nadeau
            some feathery f**k

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            • lurker
              ur worst nitemare
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2003
              • 1628

              #156
              Re: Song Corrections Thread

              as noted by multiple people during the judging process, the credits for follow you should be as follows:
              title: Follow You (Virtual Riot Remix)
              artist: Au5 feat. Danyka Nadeau
              some feathery f**k

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              • Crazyjayde
                FFR Veteran
                • May 2007
                • 1169

                #157
                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                @hi19: Yeah there's a lot of good stuff when you follow the bread crumbs hard enough. Oldschool stuff like this makes me laugh.

                @lurker: Noted tyvm.

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                • noname219
                  FFR Wiki Admin
                  • May 2007
                  • 1694

                  #158
                  Re: Song Corrections [NEED FEEDBACK]

                  Time to get things rolling. These past months, Crazyjayde and I went through the list looking for more mistakes and I'm glad to annouce that the list is 78% done. There's still a few corrections that I'm not sure about and they should be double-checked :

                  See the Google Docs here

                  - The is the first series of corrections concerning song titles, musicians and step authors.
                  - To suggest a modification, a correction or precision, comment in this thread and I will change the document as soon as I can.
                  - You can suggest modifications on genres and links, but they might be reserved for a later batch of corrections
                  - The first column is the link towards the wiki for more information about the song
                  - N219 : Noname219, CJ : Crazyjayde.
                  - In Red : Very few or no information about the song
                  - In Yellow : Some information but might still need a few more opinions on the correction
                  - In Green : Enough information was gathered and the corrections is deemed accurate
                  - In Grey : Classical songs; will be reserved for later

                  Here's a breakdown of the guidelines we used throughout the song list. There's a few exceptions but most of the songs follow the same rules. If you have questions I will be happy to answer them.

                  [2.2] About song names

                  At best, song titles should reflect what is showed on the first release appearance (digital or physical). If physical, a scan of the track list is usually the best possible source.

                  If we cannot display certain symbols in the engines (@, ç, É, ô, japanese characters, etc.), we have to substitute them with an equivalent.

                  Some songs (classical songs for example) are known under many aliases. For example, the full name of Molto Vivace is "Trancendental Étude No. 2" but is more commonly known as the first. We can use either of these two. This is subject to discussion, but we need to stay consistent. Personnally, I would prefer using the full version but this might lead to confusion.

                  Japanese songs can be romanized or translated. There's no strict requirements here because some songs do not translate well in english. If we're using a romanized title, we should only keep particles in lowercase (the rest should be capitalized).

                  Terms like [Light], [Standard] or [Heavy]* are a remnant of the widget system. We can decide to scrap them altogether and move to the "v" system (v2, v3, etc.) or keep it the way it is. Ideally, we should have only one system to differentiate between multiple files. [Editorial text] is commonly used everywhere.


                  [2.3] About artist names

                  The artist name should be what is displayed along with the song in question. If there's no clear information about the artist name, we can use the usual artist name. Also, many artists have aliases to distinguish between different styles of music and would prefer to use one of those akas.

                  If an artist has multiple songs in-game with variations on the same name (i.e. DJ Cristo and djcristo), they should be be written the same way for all the songs. Those are not considered aliases but variations.

                  Remixer, performer and feats. can be listed if we know about them. For classical songs, the slash system (Composer / Performer) should be used. Composers and arrangers for non-classical songs fall into a grey zone but as a general rule, they shouldn't be credited if they do not show up in sources.


                  also updated the first post
                  Last edited by noname219; 10-10-2015, 09:34 AM.

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                  • noname219
                    FFR Wiki Admin
                    • May 2007
                    • 1694

                    #159
                    Re: Song Corrections [NEED FEEDBACK]

                    Bumping, I need help over there (see post above).

                    I'm also nearly finished (85% - O, P, Q, R and a bit of S are remaining) and expect to be done at the end of December/early January.

                    edit nov 28 : 90,8%, O is done, nearly all OSTER project and paraoka is green and backed up with sources
                    Last edited by noname219; 11-27-2015, 10:04 PM.

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                    • noname219
                      FFR Wiki Admin
                      • May 2007
                      • 1694

                      #160
                      Re: Song Corrections [NEED FEEDBACK]

                      Yeah, hum, I'm "done". All songs have been researched and all entries have been updated : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=0&vpid=A2

                      Took like, what, at least 3 years ? ...

                      And it's still not ready for implementation (we're getting there), there's a few cases that I need to go through with Crazyjayde and classical songs will likely need a separate thread just for it. These are the steps I'm expecting for the full implementation of the changes :

                      1. Gathering feedback (??????????????????????????????????????????) from users that can help with those red and yellow cases + help by Crazyjayde somehow
                      2. What the fuck should we do with classical music (how to write the titles)
                      3. Finishing up a few details on the song pages (bpm for songs, FFR Perfect Project)
                      4. Updating musician's pages on the wiki, they're obsolete now
                      5. Updating musician's homepage in the song list. Either we a) simply update with more recent links b) link their pages on the wiki - which can then show multiple links and additional cool infos, seriously c) create new pages on the website that will serve the same purpose than the wiki, is something like this in the plans? let me guess : we thought about it, but no, it won't get done?*
                      6. Genre research (gathering feedback from users as well)
                      7. Category research (Dance, Dance 2, Arcade, Hip-Hop, etc.)

                      I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff. Will edit if I need to.

                      * Or at least making song pages show more useful information about songs, adding those fields would be nice : album, cover art, song release date, aka, composer/arranger/performer/remixer/featuring, bpm, etc. etc... Maybe we can use the wikia api to display them because I got all that shit sorted out over there.

                      Sorry if I sound blunt. I'm not targetting anybody. I just want to get things rolling.
                      Last edited by noname219; 12-2-2015, 10:43 PM.

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                      • DossarLX ODI
                        Batch Manager
                        Game Manager
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15004

                        #161
                        Re: Song Corrections [NEED FEEDBACK]

                        KXLU1 was a title to indicate the first original track played in Lauren Bousfield's set on July 31st at KXLU in 2014, although on January 29th he released the official track name to Bandcamp: Clocked, which I've changed the song name ingame from KXLU1 to Clocked.
                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                        • XelNya
                          [Kaho]
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 3369

                          #162
                          Re: Song Corrections [NEED FEEDBACK]

                          You have a mistake listed on "Call Me Maybe (Grabbitz Remix)" where you list that you're gonna change the artist to just "Carly Rae Jepsen" which would be wrong I think. (Might just be you planned to just add it in, but based on the rest of the list I think it's an error.)

                          Digging the changed to the rock titles having like "heavy" and such removed when there's not two charts in game. Never understood that in the first place after the widgets where killed off.

                          Did the author of Papyrus Adventure really write it that way without an apostrophe? Because it probably should be "Papyrus' Adventure"

                          And the Sleep [Part 2] change is great. I was torn when submitting it which would be better. (In case someone asks, yes it picks up exactly where Alloys' left off, so a [light] and [heavy] tag for the songs is not correct.)

                          Any time you say "feat. Hatsune Miku" or whatever it happens to be you could probably get away with "Ft. Hatsune Miku" for space reasons unless you're trying to be wicked precise

                          Wait we're finally putting the word fuck into song titles? Finally.

                          "It's Over" by Yuyoyuppe's author should be Yuyoyuppe ft. Merami
                          Source: https://remywiki.com/It's_over you could probably look it up through a sound vortex video or something though to triple check if you'd like but I saw like two different wikis acknowledge this.

                          Also purposing we go through and parental advisory consistently, or remove it entirely. If asked, I'd probably leave it out.

                          That said I don't know anything about most of the other songs in here. But it looks good.

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                          • Fallaise
                            FFR Player
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 42

                            #163
                            Re: Song Corrections Thread

                            A few minor mistakes on the authors names for the files Zephyros, Anima and Fractured Sunshine. Zephyros and Anima are credited to Xi while every other xi song is credited with a lowercase x. And Fractured Sunshine is credited to Terminal11 rather than Terminal 11 like every other file.

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                            • DossarLX ODI
                              Batch Manager
                              Game Manager
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15004

                              #164
                              Re: Song Corrections Thread

                              I think you meant Anima and Death Piano v2. Both have been fixed to all lowercase (xi) and Fractured Sunshine has updated the song artist to Terminal 11 (with a space).
                              Originally posted by hi19hi19
                              oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                              • Fallaise
                                FFR Player
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 42

                                #165
                                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                                Oh woops, thank you Dossar!

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