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  • XelNya
    [Kaho]
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2012
    • 3369

    #106
    Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

    Originally posted by TheSaxRunner05
    Is there any way to speed up the current judging process? I've seen several batch notes with songs getting 0/10 - 2/10 and so on that get detailed notes, maybe there can be a screening phase where someone just checks over the file that it passes submission requirements and is absent of any blatant errors. Once approved, the file would get full judging and detailed notes. Now I haven't kept up on the process lately, but I remember seeing songs from 0/10 to 4/10 getting detailed notes, which seemed like a waste of time, when a screening could have caught it.
    The issue right now isn't the speed of the judges.

    The issue is that there officially are none.

    And the backlog only grows right now, because the batch is still open for some reason. Until the batch judges are re-selected, there's pretty much zero reason for the batch to be open, because all they're doing is increasing the backlog. There's also no reason to be going three songs a week with the queue being so low either.

    But I don't think the batch speed is why the question was asked. The question was more of, "Would the site see it as a bad thing if we were to hold the tournament sooner, and use in-game files in the mix of new ones; or would the site prefer to see a tourney that possibly gets delayed, but has brand new files?"

    I'm not trying to speak for Kayla here, but that's how the wording leads me to interpret it.

    The answer at the moment seems that users want a delay, and are ok with it as long as they get newer material out of the deal. Which is fine really. I mean, I love the idea of completely new files for every tourney, but I can't say I object to the notion of using older ones either. I think viewing it as similar to a user tourney that gets over hyped is a bit unfair, but I get where that idea comes from.

    Originally posted by psychoangel691
    Right now I'm trying to rally up a few people to try and blow through at least some of what's waiting while new judges are being selected.
    If I can be of help, let me know. Even if it's just helping organize and format things like the responses.
    Last edited by XelNya; 05-2-2015, 09:23 AM.

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    • TC_Halogen
      Rhythm game specialist.
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2008
      • 19376

      #107
      Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

      Let's get back to work then, shall we?

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      • psychoangel691
        Retired Staff
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2004
        • 10438

        #108
        Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

        Originally posted by XelNya

        But I don't think the batch speed is why the question was asked. The question was more of, "Would the site see it as a bad thing if we were to hold the tournament sooner, and use in-game files in the mix of new ones; or would the site prefer to see a tourney that possibly gets delayed, but has brand new files?"
        Yeah pretty much. I mean I really want it in the summer because that always gets the best participation rate and is better for most users in terms of timing. But I didn't want to just go ahead and throw in old files to do it without bringing it up and discussing it first.
        I'm just really hoping I don't have to hold off until late fall or winter. There's 195 files in queue total right now from what I saw in the queue batch thread which when you figure how many will actually get accepted isn't very much. I had no idea how low it had been for the last month, only 20 submissions.

        If this month simfile authors start thinking in terms of the tournament and get files in that would fit some of those odd slots I'm hoping that maybe I can shoot for August for the tournament.

        I don't know, I'll keep you all posted on what's going on. It's a little all over the place right now. I believe silvuh said he'd do group 1 as well on the oldest batch which would give us the 4 we need. I'm going to do as many as I can of the 195 and have one other that is going to as well. Not sure if Nathan was intending on doing the same. If he is then we might be able to bang these out somewhat quickly because we could do a 3 judge rating type deal and then have like silvuh or doss look over files where there's any major score differences kind of thing.

        I'm rambling now, I'll shut up lol.
        Originally posted by Charu
        My dick is good, thank you very much. It gets love and attention no matter what <3 <3 <3
        Originally posted by DaBackpack
        also a fucking helicopter is the absolute last place I'd go to find out how big my dick is
        Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
        Dawg you don't even know. It's so fuckin' small I can use a pen cap to jack off

        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl

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        • XelNya
          [Kaho]
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2012
          • 3369

          #109
          Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

          Originally posted by psychoangel691
          Yeah pretty much. I mean I really want it in the summer because that always gets the best participation rate and is better for most users in terms of timing. But I didn't want to just go ahead and throw in old files to do it without bringing it up and discussing it first.
          I'm just really hoping I don't have to hold off until late fall or winter. There's 195 files in queue total right now from what I saw in the queue batch thread which when you figure how many will actually get accepted isn't very much. I had no idea how low it had been for the last month, only 20 submissions.

          If this month simfile authors start thinking in terms of the tournament and get files in that would fit some of those odd slots I'm hoping that maybe I can shoot for August for the tournament.

          I don't know, I'll keep you all posted on what's going on. It's a little all over the place right now. I believe silvuh said he'd do group 1 as well on the oldest batch which would give us the 4 we need. I'm going to do as many as I can of the 195 and have one other that is going to as well. Not sure if Nathan was intending on doing the same. If he is then we might be able to bang these out somewhat quickly because we could do a 3 judge rating type deal and then have like silvuh or doss look over files where there's any major score differences kind of thing.

          I'm rambling now, I'll shut up lol.
          I will say though: It's really nice to see staff communicating with us. This is how it should be instead of it all behind the scenes. I think public updates more often can only do good.

          ^_^

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          • HeZe
            FFR Veteran
            • Jul 2006
            • 556

            #110
            Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

            So are you saying that we should concentrate on stepping difficulty 1-20 and 90-99 in this batch?

            Gotcha.

            Originally posted by ilikexd
            Your strengths and weaknesses may never change, but they will still get better as you do, albeit disproportionately of course. You're bad at jumpstream, so just play jumpstream files. Play them for hours. Play ones you have to struggle to SDG, and play ones hard enough to make your hands and arms burn. Then play them some more. Then, the day after the next, play them again. If you aren't already doing this, you can't say you're stuck. Plateauing doesn't really exist, if you aren't improving it means you haven't put in the effort needed to improve, or your effort has been misapplied. It's more of a problem at really high levels, but never totally concrete.

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            • XelNya
              [Kaho]
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2012
              • 3369

              #111
              Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

              Originally posted by HeZe
              So are you saying that we should concentrate on stepping difficulty 1-20 and 90-99 in this batch?

              Gotcha.
              Where did you get this idea?

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              • psychoangel691
                Retired Staff
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Dec 2004
                • 10438

                #112
                Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                Originally posted by HeZe
                So are you saying that we should concentrate on stepping difficulty 1-20 and 90-99 in this batch?

                Gotcha.
                We don't use 1 - 14, D1 usually starts with a 15. We're usually lacking in files from the 15 to like 50ish range. A lot of the files that come in seem to fit the old 10 and 11 ranges (I suck at remembering the new scale, sorry).

                For the higher range I'd probably say look at the 80 and up range for things we're missing.
                Last edited by psychoangel691; 05-2-2015, 09:58 AM.
                Originally posted by Charu
                My dick is good, thank you very much. It gets love and attention no matter what <3 <3 <3
                Originally posted by DaBackpack
                also a fucking helicopter is the absolute last place I'd go to find out how big my dick is
                Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                Dawg you don't even know. It's so fuckin' small I can use a pen cap to jack off

                Originally posted by hi19hi19
                yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl

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                • XelNya
                  [Kaho]
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 3369

                  #113
                  Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                  Originally posted by psychoangel691
                  We're usually lacking in files from the 15 to like 50ish range.
                  Hmmm time to start fixing a few of my files that fall in this range I think.

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                  • HikamitheSoulReaper
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 163

                    #114
                    Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                    i say we should keep it with all new files...only because its more of a challenge to see a new file that you never tried and it makes you wanna try to tame it more and more...till your fingers break! it drives you to wanna take the challenge head on knowing that its new...not just to win but because its fun to push your self to wanna beat it...or anything~!! i admit adding some old here and there sounds fine...but you might be in that round where those few peeps just so happened to know that file and play it...its kinda like a unfair advantage...in some ways...but i dont mind but i just see it as a easier way out... new songs = more challenge ....its the best way to put it...i guess... p~p
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                    • MinaciousGrace
                      FFR Player
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 4278

                      #115
                      Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                      i agree with everyone in this thread

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                      • SK8R43
                        D7 Elite Keymasher
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4683

                        #116
                        Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                        I agree with you agreeing with everyone in this thread.
                        Thee Burstinator
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                        • mrpreggers
                          D7 Elite Keymasher
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 3395

                          #117
                          Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                          just realized my vote in the poll was no i meant to say yes oops

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                          • psychoangel691
                            Retired Staff
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 10438

                            #118
                            Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                            Originally posted by mrpreggers
                            just realized my vote in the poll was no i meant to say yes oops
                            It's alright I noticed your post was different from your vote.
                            Originally posted by Charu
                            My dick is good, thank you very much. It gets love and attention no matter what <3 <3 <3
                            Originally posted by DaBackpack
                            also a fucking helicopter is the absolute last place I'd go to find out how big my dick is
                            Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                            Dawg you don't even know. It's so fuckin' small I can use a pen cap to jack off

                            Originally posted by hi19hi19
                            yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl

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                            • choof
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 8563

                              #119
                              Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                              the widdim game

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                              • Deidara837
                                For a New Beginning
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 1751

                                #120
                                Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

                                August would be cool as I'm traveling to Oxford in July

                                Honestly I just want my file released lol, I now realize that it's probably useful as a tourney file even if it's in the common 60s range, enjoy

                                Also I voted for all new files as that's my honest opinion, the situation probably doesn't call for that as a solution but oh well, that's how it goes. A mix would be cool, the thing I foresee though (I know at least for me) is that when old files are announced as round songs, I'm gonna be like *sigh*, this file again.. blah

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