Official Tournament Round 4 Song Discussion

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Ouch. I say keep it as is for the week. Welcome to framer hell, Division Four!!

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I didn't realize it was filled with those. It felt natural to me!

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This^^^

Feels fine to me if that is D4's chart... Which I don't think it is considering I never remember most of those patterns.

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Nah, that's the D6 song Zeta's posting frame screw ups.

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Wow, 9-2 seems really easy. Not too much for me, but D6 is going to go Office Space on this chart.

I wouldn't disagree with Quark being a 66... but one thing's for sure, I feel really weird getting a score like this without trying to:



What a WEIRD chart in general lol.

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2-9: I'm not playing this file ever again because I will just get frustrated at it and I don't want to ruin the song because I really like this kkrusty song thx dossar. (Mini)trillfest.. nice and awkward

Sleep: This really does feel like a nuclear blast file. It's very boring in which sounds it's stepping (woop dee doo 16th runs at a static non-changing low-key 16th sound in the background), it's repetitive and sometimes the pattern choices remind me of the intro of zaghs st. scarhand (that's not a compliment). The intensity of the song does not match such dense jumpstreams and the hands feel really out of place.

Quark: All of those "gaps" in the patterns (12[134]_41[234] for example) make for really awkward patterns. Could've had much better flow.

Overall the "difficult" files of this round were all awkward to play and I don't see myself playing these again anytime soon. Good thing I'm not in the tourney

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read as "housed in the f&^k genre" LOL

yeah, from preview, this song is stepped much too densely... I dont like this new trend of overstepping. carol of the bells and flamingo are two more recent songs like that that come to mind.
Am i the only person that doesn't hear the word 'sleep' at all in that song??

Ultranumb was sweet!!

and my PA for 2-9 was about half SR as was for sleep :P
*and still is after a few playthroughs
and man, D3 are going to rage this round

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Wow thank fuck I got eliminated last round or else I'd have an embarrassing 50g score this round

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Wow, sleep is in the engine now .. fucking awesome.

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And once again, here are my impressions for Round 4!

DESIRE DRIVE (LLS HARDCORE REMIX) [Standard]:
FFR has many hardcore songs in its song list, but I don't recall many of them being UK hardcore. I hope this song is a fair introduction to the genre. It's quite a step up from D1's previous round, so watch out for the trills! I have a [Heavy] version of this song already stepped and waiting for a future batch.

ULTRAnumb:
This song isn't the sort of stuff I listen to, but I know people will like Blue Stahli. A moderately lengthy song, this actually isn't too bad to play. I wouldn't even say it's much more difficult compared to D1's song. The only tricky part is a 43434 one-handed trill in the middle of the file.

Entry:
This file played pretty smoothly, and certainly looked harder on the preview than it actually is to play. I found the selective nature of choosing 12th jacks to 16th jumpstreams a bit arbitrary though. I would've stuck with one or the other, rather than having 12ths switch to 16ths halfway through. The [13]2[13]2 section at the very end of the song could trip some people up if they aren't watching closely. Good file.

Quark:
Song sounds like KAMAITACHI, and plays like a dick too lol. It isn't streamy as I had hoped, but this is Razor's style, and I very much respect that. On the other hand, the 32nds make up for that and certainly gives a lot of replayability to the file, although many of the bursts are awkward and unconventional. You can probably get a good score if you try hard enough, but AAAing this one is another matter. Energetic file.

Sleep:
Congratulations on your first file in the game, alloyus! A lot of people already seem very pleased at this file, as it is jumpstream-heavy which Stepmania players tend to love. Unfortunately, I don't share this opinion and find it bland (partially due to song length) and hard for the sake of being hard. For you players out there, watch out for split goods on dense streams too. FFR doesn't give the same sort of leeway as SM's chord cohesion does.

2-9:
This song sounds like Level Skip, but plays more like Hero Reconsidering or Breakbeat Acid, albeit on a slightly easier level. It's getting hard for me to differentiate kkrusty's music now. You'll really need quick fingers to get through this song. The file itself is slightly easier from what I remember it. The intro used to be quite a bit harder. However, this chart still can't be underestimated. The 16th jumps scattered in the jumpstream can easily trip you up.

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can't say i like D4's song... Doesn't flow at all to me. bursty files are my thing, and when they flow, they are super fun to play! this one though... bursts seem to come out of nowhere

and playing it more, it's got so many awkward patterns :/

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D5's song is fantastic this round. too bad im eliminated lol this song is mad fun I dont mind whoring it

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With the exception of the last one, you can't exactly do anything about what's listed because they happen in the middle of constant streams. If you fix/shift one thing upward, it causes a frame issue somewhere in the stream. It's not something that can be controlled, it's the speed of the song that makes it a problem. With 2-9 being 230 BPM, I can't fully clean up streams without making the streams partially off-sync.

It's still relatively easy to score on regardless of light frame discrepancies anyway.

@ Razor: when you sent the file, the audio within the file was 128 kbps -- I have to convert files that are above 160 down to 160 because of direct conversion in Flash, and your file didn't need to be converted. Any audio issues that exist either were present in your initial submission, or are just occurring on your end. Quark's audio is lower quality, but that's not something I have control over, considering the file sent to be had low audio quality to begin with.

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This file is miles harder than D1's song. There's 32nd bursts scattered throughout the file, tougher jump placement in and out of patterns, and even some streams of nothing but jumps at 16ths (which granted, isn't very fast, but still). Not even comparable. D1 players aren't expected to know how to handle themselves with tons of jumps or 32nd bursts that equal 170 BPM 16ths. Yeah, it's not as hard as we hoped and I'm somewhat wondering if the rating that we came to a consensus to is a bit high, but implying that ULTRAnumb is a 6 (or DESIRE DRIVE is an 8) is not correct, at all.

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cbr saves the day again -- 320kbp/s right from the artist:



feel free to transcode that to 160kbp/s etc. but yeah no unintentional artifacts are in this version

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Whoa, thanks! I'll convert it and fix it a little bit later.