8th Official FFR Tournament - Final Round!

**LaZboy77** · 01-14-2013, 10:59 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

Originally posted by TC_Halogen

He's talking about his score on Nanairopanda v2, not the acquisition of the token itself. The score is pretty strong, but the miss count isn't exactly helpful for the cause.

No, I was talking about getting the token.

I'm not sure of the process for putting someone into a certain division. Is it by their average rank, their number of AAA's, fc's; I really don't know. In this case I was thinking that if someone got a token that not a lot of people had gotten because it was very difficult then they might be placed into a higher division based on that. Just goes to show how much I know about this stuff. Well, you gotta ask to know, right?

**Elite Ninja** · 01-14-2013, 11:03 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

Not participating in the tourney but I'm looking forward to seeing the new song releases (mine might show up during the tourney :3) and how the competition goes down.

**psychoangel691** · 01-14-2013, 11:04 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

Originally posted by LaZboy77

No, I was talking about getting the token.

I'm not sure of the process for putting someone into a certain division. Is it by their average rank, their number of AAA's, fc's; I really don't know. In this case I was thinking that if someone got a token that not a lot of people had gotten because it was very difficult then they might be placed into a higher division based on that. Just goes to show how much I know about this stuff. Well, you gotta ask to know, right?

You have sdgs on some FMO's that right there pushes you up, especially in a raw scoring tournament.

**benguino** · 01-14-2013, 11:08 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

Originally posted by LaZboy77

No, I was talking about getting the token.

I'm not sure of the process for putting someone into a certain division. Is it by their average rank, their number of AAA's, fc's; I really don't know. In this case I was thinking that if someone got a token that not a lot of people had gotten because it was very difficult then they might be placed into a higher division based on that. Just goes to show how much I know about this stuff. Well, you gotta ask to know, right?

Division placements are based on one's skill to properly play the game (so acquiring anti-PA tokens or tokens that make you play the game in such a way where a AAA would not be optimal would not be used). The number of AAA's and FC's can somewhat indicate a player's skill but can't be trusted because (1) good players could just be lazy and choose not to fc/aaa easy songs and (2) not-so-skilled players could be very determined and attempt to AAA and FC every song possible, making them appear better than they really are. So when placing people, it usually boils down to looking at scores on individual songs, but seeing it from a big picture. Usually, the general question is asked, "at what range of file difficulty does the participant start doing 'poorly' on?" Often times, statistics such as a user's highest difficulty AAA and SDG are good starters, but a tourney placer must be careful to not let only one or two scores influence someone's placement. I'm no expert myself at placements, but I hope my insight will help you with your understanding of how placements work on FFR

**LaZboy77** · 01-14-2013, 11:15 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

Originally posted by psychoangel691

You have sdgs on some FMO's that right there pushes you up, especially in a raw scoring tournament.

Cool. If I'm D3 or under then I think I'll do pretty well. If I'm above D3 then I'll be flattered.

Can't wait to participate in my first of, hopefully, many tournaments.

Originally posted by reuben_tate

Division placements are based on one's skill to properly play the game (so acquiring anti-PA tokens or tokens that make you play the game in such a way where a AAA would not be optimal would not be used). The number of AAA's and FC's can somewhat indicate a player's skill but can't be trusted because (1) good players could just be lazy and choose not to fc/aaa easy songs and (2) not-so-skilled players could be very determined and attempt to AAA and FC every song possible, making them appear better than they really are. So when placing people, it usually boils down to looking at scores on individual songs, but seeing it from a big picture. Usually, the general question is asked, "at what range of file difficulty does the participant start doing 'poorly' on?" Often times, statistics such as a user's highest difficulty AAA and SDG are good starters, but a tourney placer must be careful to not let only one or two scores influence someone's placement. I'm no expert myself at placements, but I hope my insight will help you with your understanding of how placements work on FFR

You sound like an expert lol. And yes, your explanation was very helpful. Thank you.

**DarknessXoXLight** · 01-14-2013, 11:18 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

Originally posted by j-rodd123

ugh i signed up, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

(clap)

**One Winged Angel** · 01-14-2013, 11:24 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

no need to clap, he's already got it

(jk ily j-rodd i hope ur STD free !!)

**benguino** · 01-14-2013, 11:30 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

Originally posted by LaZboy77

Cool. If I'm D3 or under then I think I'll do pretty well. If I'm above D3 then I'll be flattered.

Can't wait to participate in my first of, hopefully, many tournaments.

You sound like an expert lol. And yes, your explanation was very helpful. Thank you.

I'm flattered you think that. I just want to say though, that I, in no way represent the placement committee for this tournament and that I don't actually know the parameters, algorithms, or techniques that the placement committee is using to place people. Please disregard everything I've said and perceive it more as just blind speculation based on a vast amount of assumptions which I shouldn't have made in the first place. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused you as the actual way people are placed are most likely different than what I have described.

**psychoangel691** · 01-14-2013, 11:37 PM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

Being that this is a raw scoring tournament placements will be looked at differently than they were before. A score that might not have bumped someone before due to combo scoring might do so this time around depending. There are a lot of things I look at during the placement process. It doesn't come down to just something simple like FCs, AAAs or even just SDGs anymore.

**remedy1502** · 01-14-2013, 11:41 PM

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Calling it now round 3 max if I get put in D6 which I definitely will be

**HikamitheSoulReaper** · 01-15-2013, 01:03 AM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

hmm...it might get real this year...

**popsicle_3000** · 01-15-2013, 04:38 AM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

cool seeing lots of non-regulars in the forums

**dudefishpop** · 01-15-2013, 04:54 AM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

This sounds really fun! Been playing for a while now but never entered a tournament before.

Have no idea what division i'll be placed in so this should be quite interesting.

**popsicle_3000** · 01-15-2013, 04:59 AM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

congrats on 1st post!!

**Illiko** · 01-15-2013, 07:21 AM

Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament

so this is the 8th one.. and its my first... anything i should expect? besides possibly getting my but kicked by ffrs greatest?

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