A real guide on how to make a good simfile

**cetaka** · 03-1-2008, 05:08 PM

Re: A real guide on how to make a good simfile

wat

my files are generally just doing all the things on that list (which i assume are the basis of a mediocre technical file that i would play once or twice and then forget about) except with a particular score or grade in mind that I craft the difficulty around. most of the files that proficient stepmania players post scores on have that attribute, but I'd wager that almost all of those files were unintentionally done that way.

**ducky285** · 03-1-2008, 05:30 PM

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oh...well then nevermind. I guess I never took the time to analyze your files much hehe.

**cetaka** · 03-1-2008, 05:34 PM

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personally, I like to think that you have never ever analyzed any stepmania simfile ever, ever. but that's just me :S

**ducky285** · 03-1-2008, 05:43 PM

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You'll be glad to know that I don't plan on majoring in Advanced Simfile Studies anytime soon.

**cetaka** · 03-1-2008, 05:51 PM

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that's good, because I think that princeton has a much better curriculum than MIT in that field, especially now that they have hired 3-time world champion stepmania mastermind dr. kil

ps I don't know if you noticed but I hate hands and very rarely use them in my "serious" files, since it seems like if you need to use hands to add difficulty then the song probably isn't cut out for a difficult file (I can't say anything about using them for Final Fantasy Piano Concerto for Jazz Quartet by Oster Project or whatever hip new files people are playing now, but I'm sure they're used well.)

pps

Originally posted by ducky285

oh...well then nevermind. I guess I never took the time to analyze your files much hehe.

if this is a stepmania insult then i'll just say that my files are meant to be played and not analyzed bye. if it wasn't then nm

**DoctorSerpentine** · 03-1-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by cetaka

"serious files"

i call bs

**ducky285** · 03-1-2008, 10:35 PM

Re: A real guide on how to make a good simfile

Originally posted by cetaka

if this is a stepmania insult then i'll just say that my files are meant to be played and not analyzed bye. if it wasn't then nm

Nope, not an insult. I rather enjoy your files despite the fact that my fingers have Down's Syndrome and I can barely pass them.

And by analyze, I mean when I play files I notice different people have tendencies in how they layer, pitch relevance and yada yada insert other SM theories and ****. Your stuff just seems unconventional but it works so I have no complaints. B)

**stargroup100** · 03-1-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by cetaka

if this is a stepmania insult then i'll just say that my files are meant to be played and not analyzed bye. if it wasn't then nm

I don't know why, but as I'm playing files or listening to music I can't help but subconsciously analyze the file as I'm playing. This has a large influence on my files as you may have noticed. I try to make my files fun by being innovative and unique.

This is probably the main reason why I prefer art that is more artistic than fun.

**cetaka** · 03-2-2008, 04:58 AM

Re: A real guide on how to make a good simfile

but hopefully you can understand when somebody who plays for score doesn't like a 7-minute long file with 4231324231324 300 bpm 16ths very close to the end that's quite easy otherwise and apparently just layered directly from the music =\

I think the difference between, for example, vatstep and planet karma were expressed pretty well by hayden when he said something like "that was more fun to watch than it would have been to play" after having the latter on autoplay

**stargroup100** · 03-2-2008, 02:59 PM

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this is where the conflict arises, and interestingly enough it's almost parallel with music

in summary:

people like pop music because it's fun, they don't care for how well it's made
people like artistic music because they admire the composer's work at an intellectual level

people like files like crow's ghost because it's good for scoring (scoring)
people like files like planet karma because it's innovative and fun to follow (exhibition)

edit: yes I did read your post I was summarizing

**cetaka** · 03-2-2008, 05:41 PM

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ok arch0wl, music and stepmania are equivalent on an intellectual level just like music and chess are equivalent on a leisure level. but whatever, did you even read my post lol

ps i guess i see where you're coming from but i'm pretty sure if you're calling planet karma "innovative", then so is magical 8bit tour

**giganutsauce** · 03-3-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by cetaka

ok arch0wl, music and stepmania are equivalent on an intellectual level just like music and chess are equivalent on a leisure level. but whatever, did you even read my post lol

ps i guess i see where you're coming from but i'm pretty sure if you're calling planet karma "innovative", then so is magical 8bit tour

rofl magical 8bit being innovative

ok here's my serious thought on this

yes, chess sucks **** unless you're playing in a competition, but what if the said kid plays chess a ton for pleasure

I hope that makes sense rofl

**giganutsauce** · 03-3-2008, 12:40 PM

Re: A real guide on how to make a good simfile

Originally posted by stargroup100

people like files like crow's ghost because it's good for scoring (scoring)
people like files like planet karma because it's innovative and fun to follow

no people like crow's ghost because it's a much better file than planet karma, simply because it's a ****ing game and shouldn't be fapped over

**DoctorSerpentine** · 03-3-2008, 02:27 PM

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Everytime I see a cetaka file, I'm afraid the background will give me another lengthy explanation of how I'm an idiot for downloading it.

**ducky285** · 03-3-2008, 04:52 PM

Re: A real guide on how to make a good simfile

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A real guide on how to make a good simfile

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