MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

[rayword45]

Is this format allowed for other songs? (Arrow keys + numpad used only as spread except during difficult parts A.K.A Trill)

I'd like to know because I know of one song which I can AAA entirely minus the beginning.

[Choofers]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

you'll finish the song feeling like you cheated yourself somehow

[TC_Halogen]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

Rubix didn't AAA Crowdpleaser that way. He did an overlay setup, giving him larger keys to turn the ridiculous 64th trill, to two split up 32nd trills.

For example, when I do Crowdpleaser, I use Shift/Z and +/Backspace, so that when I get to the left right trill, I can isolate each side's jacks and turn it into a trill.

Granted, you'll have to be able to jumptrill 250 BPM 16ths for a short time.

[rayword45]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=110838

I don't exactly understand what Overlay is but he used LDUR setup.

[i love you]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

Overlay setup just means that you are using two fingers on one key. Halogen basically just explained what he did to AAA Crowdpleaser. Personally though, I think that using the overlay setup is considered cheating however FFR is allowing it so technically it is "legit".

[justin_ator]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

What you described is double setup and is frowned upon in most societies.

And yeh, what Halogen said. Rubix used multiple fingers on one key to hit those, not multiple keys.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

Overlay is for pussies

[rayword45]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

He uses this technique that Tass allows on CP where he uses both hands on the index keys, and hits the left and right keys jumptrilling. So he does the 16th trill normal, 32nd trill normal, and then hit's the 64th vibratrill as a 32nd jumptrill pretty much. [can't exactly explain it too clear, hope it makes sense]

So yeah, it's like double setup without having to double setup, so it's considered legit. Though of course it's trickier than using DS because it's not that easy to trill on the same keys due to having to let go of the keys before hitting it with your other hand, and on top of that it's kinda awkward trilling with one hand right above the other like that or whatever, and then comming out of the trill into the up+down jump and whatnot, yeah. If you bother to learn it, it's very helpful, personally, I'm too lazy.

Found this.

[Emithith]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

I thought overlay was a quick way to get banned.

[ScarletSky]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

What's a "Crowd Pleaser"?

[Choofers]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

whats a gig?

[TC_Halogen]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

I have no shame in admitting that I can't do the trill legitimately. The problem with the that CP trill is that hitting a trill of that speed isn't possible with training (that is, hitting it with precision). The success rate of hitting that is retardedly low. I've FC'd the trill a few times because I actually can vibra-trill for a short period of time, but there's no way I'll hold an SDG on the file that way.

So, I had to find another option. I'm not trying to be good at vibra-trilling because the skill isn't important for FFR. One could try and use the Death Piano argument, but it too is possible to get into an overlay setup for that trill as well.

[richyrich55]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

What's a legit AAA?

It's hitting every arrow perfectly without using cheap tricks to get a desired score. Don't be a pussy.

[Reincarnate]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format

Rubix, here.

And yes, overlay setup just means you're "overlaying" your hits on the same keys. I used the standard LDUR arrow keys but used four fingers on two buttons during the megatrill. It requires a decent flat-key keyboard, in my experience (I've tried it with thicker keys and they typically don't vibrate quite right with this setup).

It's considered legit because it isn't using additional buttons or inputs, but it may be considered "cheap" by some who think you should keep one finger per arrow and leave it be. Personally, I think it's a losing argument to try to argue that it's cheap -- hell, there's nothing stopping you from using two feet on one panel when playing DDR during, say, Can't Stop Falling In Love Speed Mix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsWct1ecjQ , and Madmatt uses overlay all the damn time in other ways http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPTnEG8BMU . I've also seen some people use overlay setup for the final jacks of Max 300 (yes, even Yasu) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ARGEZ50J4s .

I had the trill isolated in its own file and I must have tried HUNDREDS of times to AAA it without overlay. It was hard enough just to FC it with a decent PA distribution, let alone AAA it. The success rate is just so low that it's not worth it, especially when you compound that difficulty with the time taken to reach the megatrill in the song, in addition to the fact that there are one or two tricky patterns that exist in the first half of the song. Not to mention "random" PA flubs here and there. IMO it basically becomes another "is the bar cheating?" argument. Obviously it's more impressive to do a song no-bar, but for some songs, it becomes infeasible for most people.

I don't know if anyone has AAA'd it without overlay yet, but if they have, that's a real achievement.

[richyrich55]

Re: MrRubix Crowdpleaser format