Problems with the Big Bang theory

[EnR]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

dont know if anyone said anything about this, but there are billions of universes filled with planets, and the "big bang" wasint an explosion, but an expansion.

[devonin]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

dont know if anyone said anything about this, but there are billions of universes filled with planets, and the "big bang" wasint an explosion, but an expansion.

Feel free to make with the evidence to support this. Blanket authoritative statements, especially ones that conflict with the entire course of the current discussion need a little more to back them up than "nothing"

[Sullyman2007]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

It seems like this whole thread is riding on the edge of rule number 5. Nothing here can really be proven to be, "factual", if you will.

dont know if anyone said anything about this, but there are billions of universes filled with planets, and the "big bang" wasint an explosion, but an expansion.

I personally never really agreed with the whole "parallel universe" theory, allways found it to be quite hard to contemplate. Not only that, but it just leads back to the same question on The Big Bang. Yeah, so what if there are a billion other universes. We might be first, we might be somewhere in the middle, but whichever one came first, how did it come to be? In any case, I do support the Big Bang theory, I just dont have alot of evidence to back it. No one does.

[perkeyone]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

think about a molecule its made up of atoms which are in turn made up of particles like neutrons. neutrons are made of quarks which are made of even smaller particles. the hierarchy could possibly continue to infinitely smaller particles. my concept for the universe is just the opposite. the universe is just a small particle of a larger item a multiverse you could call it. of course the multiverse would be a component of an even larger item. none of it is tangible or observable, and therefor not very scientific and probably against the rules of the thread.

alternate time lines are a neat concept but when ever i think of time"lines" it makes me think of only 2 dimensions when it could hypothetically be any number of dimensions.

[devonin]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

Parallel universes doesn't try to be an answer to the question of what created the universe. You're denying that oranges can be apples.

Theories about the creation of the universe aren't the same thing as theories about the makeup of the universe.

And yes, we've been riding the edge of rule 5 for a while now, but it's more about a lack of evidence, rather than the inability for there to be evidence, which is where rule 5 tends to come down on people.

[perkeyone]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

oranges can be apples?
you confused the hell out of me lol
i guess the topic got side tracked ever since i cant shut the hell up

[devonin]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

I was responding to Sullyman saying "Parallel universes don't get around the problems with the big bang" and I was pointing out "They don't try to, the concept is entirely different"

[EnR]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

Feel free to make with the evidence to support this. Blanket authoritative statements, especially ones that conflict with the entire course of the current discussion need a little more to back them up than "nothing"

Here, http://youtube.com/watch?v=mcBV-cXVWFw

Dont know if its true or not

"In 2003, the Hubble Space Telescope took the image of a millenium, an image that shows our place in the universe. Anyone who understands what this image represents, is forever changed by it"


I will get were i found out about the big bang being an expansion instead of an explosion, later on

[Sullyman2007]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

Parallel universes doesn't try to be an answer to the question of what created the universe. You're denying that oranges can be apples.

Theories about the creation of the universe aren't the same thing as theories about the makeup of the universe.

And yes, we've been riding the edge of rule 5 for a while now, but it's more about a lack of evidence, rather than the inability for there to be evidence, which is where rule 5 tends to come down on people.

Sorry, I thought thats what he was trying to say when he said, "...billions of universes filled with planets, and the "big bang" wasn't an explosion, but an expansion.", I thought he was refering to the Parallel Universe theory.
Man...this isn't really going anywhere.

[ShAiOnEi]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

space bubbled up and created matter from the gases left from the bubbled atmosphere, it took large amounts of time until our universe became so vast

space bubbled up and created matter from the gases left from the bubbled atmosphere, it took large amounts of time until our universe became so vast

[Sullyman2007]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

Sorry Shaionei, but that dosen't seem to make any sense :/
Not sure what your getting at...

[ShAiOnEi]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

Sorry Shaionei, but that dosen't seem to make any sense :/
Not sure what your getting at...

Dude it's so simple. Look you take complete nothing and after a while it's just too much nothing and it becomes unstabilized and bubbles inversely creating small particles that collide with each other thus creating matter. Duh. The huge mass is eventually created until it explodes causing the big bang. There I solved the whole mystery of our source of existence.

[Sullyman2007]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

Never heard of this before. One small problem; how does "nothing" become unstable and start to bubble? Sounds fundementaly flawed to me...

[ShAiOnEi]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

Never heard of this before. One small problem; how does "nothing" become unstable and start to bubble? Sounds fundementaly flawed to me...

I don't know I haven't figured that one out yet. After a while nothing can turn into something if you just wait a while. I'll tell you right now no godly being created this immense universe, the universe is the godly being. Btw talking out my rear right now.

[devonin]

Re: Problems with the Big Bang theory

Okay, I think we've about exhausted this particular discussion.