HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.
Think "Roman Empire".
Think "Roman Empire".
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Jewpin, the roman empire was fatally flawed in one way that is obselete now. Its span of control. During this day and age that is no longer a huge factor in the ruling of an "empire." With the latest technology in communication and transportation, the United States can be anywhere it wants to be at any time. There was an old saying, "The sun never sets on the british empire" because of its array of colonies. Well the same holds true with the United States and most nations today that have the capabilities we do. Besides, we are not an imperialistic nation, we are a neo-imperialistic nation rather. We might control countries, but in a different type of way, a way that is not direct. We do it through economic interdependence and military threat. And though Iraq can be construed as as a "colony" now, it is in fact not. Not for long if it is a colony. But that's besides the point. Just presenting my opinion.
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I can't stand it when people are blinded by the illusion that the United States Govt. puts up for its citizens... do you people realize how close we are to an economic depression again? Our national debt is near 5 trillion dollars... We are in rough shape finacnially, and Bush just wants everyone to feel happy! You wanna know why gas prices are so high? Because the govt. has taxes on that stuff that we don't even kow about! Same with cigarettes and alcohol... The govt. gets a huge chunk of that! Another thing contributing toour huge debt i, believe itor not... Savings Bonds! People are so bent on maturing their savings bonds 50 years past their set time, and there are so many of them, that the Govt, is essentially losing money! Our country is in a BIG slump, and neither Bush or Kerry or Dean or Edwards can do anything about it... Why? Because they're too scared. They don't want to take the road that Clinton took simply because of the bad name that Clinton got.. but let me tell you all something... Clinton (while being a moron) was an ingenius politician! Our national debt has lowered substantially after the Bush Administration took over. And don't forget that a drop in debt for the country shouldn't always be accredited to the current president... because if you notice, you don't see Bush DOING anything to get rid of the debt... He says "We're gonna knock out the National Debt!" But WHAT IS HE DOING? Also, what has Howard Dean said about the debt? NOTHING! He won't even remark on it. But as I posted previously.. Dean, though the first pick at the beginning at the beginning of the primaries, is about to be out of it... he's wasted a lot of money, an dthat definitely shows that he should NOT be a leader when our country is in such an economic crisis...Comment
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yeah no shit we pay the government taxes...is that really news toi anyone...we pay them to run things right...and if youre really interseted in the US paying off all its debt what would you do about it...there is only one thing you can do...cut back on all government funded programs like welfare and medicare and then raise taxes...do you think any president could get any of that legislature approved...furthermore do you think anyone would vote for the president that says that...Originally posted by VxDxComment
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Yeah I agree with you Systolic. Even though I am a republican, I am more of a moderate, and I liked Clinton a lot. He did a lot to bring us out of the deficit.Comment
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Clinton was a good president, and so what if he had an affair, lots of people have.
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Ugh. Think back to 1933. The time the depression was at it's worst (not to mention Hoover did nothing to fix the problem except give tax cuts to the wealthy and big business..sound familiar?) Then FDR came into power. He passed some "radical" ideas to get the United States back on track. Such ideas still exist today, such as welfare. But what FDR was most respected for is that he restored hope.
When September 11th roled around, the economy was demolished. I do feel that getting rid of Al-Queda was a good move. Bush did a good job helping the US cope with the national tragedy. His cowboy attitude came in handy...however it got the best of him and he saw the opportunity to attack all the countries which he had beef with (Iraq). It is kind of like breaking your leg...and allowing it to get a tad bit better, and then doing jumping jacks. Bush didnt give enough time for the economy to recover and started a war based on distorted facts.
I totally agree that the world is better without Saddam in power...but now was not the right time. This why I dislike Bush. Dont worry about other countires when ours is suffering. If we were backed by the UN, I would not have any problem, but the fact is we (the united states) basically said "Fck you World, we are the most powerful nation, we will do as we please." Thus, causing the rest of the world to turn against us. I dont know about you, but I would rather have France, Germany, and Russia on our side instead of against us.
People seem to forget that both Germany and Russia are against us too. People only acknowledge France to be the "traitors" because if that "freedom fry" bullsh*t. Who is on our side? Britian, Canada, and Japan. I'm not to sure as to why Britian is on our side, would care to explain? But the Canadian is on our side because...well they are Canada...Americas Little Brother. Although, I think the Canadians hate us now. And Japan because they want help with N.Korea who is threatening Japan and the US so that we will help them fix their economy.
The only hope for America is in the strength of its citizens. Because the Government is damn well f*cked in my opinion. I feel we can all agree that we want the best for our nation. We just have different views on what we think is best. That is what makes this nation so great.Comment
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your sense of nationalism is part of the conservative ideolgy...i like thatOriginally posted by VxDxComment
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You have some good points jewpin. I agree that we have lost many friends, I just don't think it won't matter too much in the years to come, especially when we get a different president. The world is too economically interdependent to really not cooperate with each other. When I say the world, I really mean the west, U.S., Canada, Western Europe, and Japan. But I do think it was stupid to act without U.N. approval. But realize, we fun the largest portion of the U.N. budget, and we import and export a great majority of goods in the world. Screwing the U.S. over is not good for business. But anyway, it's good to have an intellectual conversation with someone.
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(Sorry this was from so far back)Originally posted by Specforces
The other thing that ruined the Roman Empire more than distance was that the entire empire was based on bloodshed. That kind of empire will always fall, because there is always someone to fight back.
Distance did make it worse though.
Back on topic:
Governments will run their course, sometimes with little care to your opinion. Government appeals to the masses, because it is the masses that keep them in power. A government that sometimes goes against public opinion loses that public opinion. The masses are not the bright ones. That makes public opinion mostly based on emotion, and not rational thought.Comment
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indeed a direct democracy is never a smart idea becuase the citizens are genuinely stupidOriginally posted by VxDxComment
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Very true....Originally posted by makaveli121212Comment
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Ignorance is the cause of many problems (not all). If everyone was educated the world would be a beter place. However, it cost money to do so.Comment
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agreed
with both maka and dark mindAfrobean16 (8:58:05 PM): you're evil incarnateComment
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