Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

[jamuko]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

Laharl, you're saying that the concept of love being integral to marriage is new, and therefore should be ignored? Oh, god forbid our race evolve to new and better ideals! Are you saying that hypothetically, you would prefer a society with arranged marriages just to further bloodlines rather than one where you marry whomever you choose?

Using old values like you are, you might as well say it's unconstitutional for women to have jobs, or the lower-class to be educated. See how many people would agree with those.

I'm not usually the argumentative type, but this debate sparks my interest because I still have yet to see an argument from your side that makes any sense at all to me, so it's baffling that it somehow manages to hold its own in this country. I'd really like to hear one.

[FoJaR]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_unions

that boils down to same sex mentorships in china, same sex relations in greece, temporary same sex "pay the father to bang the son" unions in africa, formal marriages to shamans, and the roman emporor Nero, possibly the WORST representitive a cause can have.

[Shashakiro]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

damn, i just realized you're right but i don't want to admit it so i'll just give up instead

GG indeed.

[FoJaR]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

I question the idea that requiring a male-female relationship for marriage is universal, objective and not fundamentally flawed.

I also question the idea that a rewrite of the apparent definition of marriage to exclude relationships with specific gender requirements is bad or even inconvenient enough to warrant not doing it.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT MARRIAGE IS!

you cant say "well it's easy to change the definition of marriage so lets do it."

i want to change the definition of dog to include cats. it would be really easy.

i want to change the definition of freedom of religion to mean that i can stone someone to death if they're a sinner.

i want to change the definition of the N-word to something less offensive.

things arent going to change just because it's convenient. this is the way it is, and this is the way it's going to stay. marriage is the union of a man and a woman.

[Grandiagod]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT MARRIAGE IS!

you cant say "well it's easy to change the definition of marriage so lets do it."

i want to change the definition of dog to include cats. it would be really easy.

i want to change the definition of freedom of religion to mean that i can stone someone to death if they're a sinner.

i want to change the definition of the N-word to something less offensive.

things arent going to change just because it's convenient. this is the way it is, and this is the way it's going to stay. marriage is the union of a man and a woman.

Show me where, in the constitution, marriage is defined.

[FoJaR]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

Ammendment XXVIII

Section 1. Marriage is hereby defined as the union of one man and one woman.

Section 2. ******s can burn in hell PRAISE TEXAS





Nah, marriage isnt in the constitution. but that doesnt make the definition any less clear.

[Grandiagod]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

Nah, marriage isnt in the constitution. but that doesnt make the definition any less clear.

Anyone can have their own definition. This is proof by the fact that there is disagreement on the issue.

What is clear is that the constitution grants EQUAL rights to everyone. Including gays.

Therefore;

Gay marriage = Constitutional.

[FoJaR]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

no, equal rights = gay people are allowed to marry members of the opposite sex.

[jewpinthethird]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

Gay Marriage = Unconstitutional = 2 Week Ban

[FoJaR]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

[Dragula219]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

Gay Marriage = Unconstitutional = 2 Week Ban

I guess we should get divorced FoJaR.

[Grandiagod]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

no, equal rights = gay people are allowed to marry members of the opposite sex.

Explain how this logic of yours works. I do not follow it.

[FoJaR]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

we never got married, but i still love you.

[FoJaR]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

Explain how this logic of yours works. I do not follow it.

straight people have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex.

gay people have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex.

[Grandiagod]

Re: Gay Marriage Unconstitutional?

straight people have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex.

gay people have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex.

Very true. But why wouldn't they have a right to marry someone of the same sex? How come hetro relationships are suddenly the only ones covered by rights?