The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

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  • #16
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    spyke252
    • Oct 2006
    • 181

    Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

    Hm...
    There aren't any visible problems with that proof.
    However, the 4=2 is unnecessary, as if -1=1, then any number is equal to any other number.
    But I assumed you added 3 to both sides to get the 2=1 answer.
    Originally posted by Tokzic
    is the repetition of the last line a metaphorical comparison of the dependance of society on technology today versus the more natural lifestyle of the late nineteenth century

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    • #17
      Admiral in the Red Army
      Afrobean
      • Dec 2003
      • 13262

      Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

      Oh I see the problem now.

      Because of the square root, it's really plus or minus.

      It's sort of like saying this:

      ±1 = ±1
      1 = -1

      Which is obviously wrong.

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      • #18
        Private College
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        Kit-
        • Feb 2006
        • 536

        Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

        Actually, square roots are by definition positive. But you're getting close.
        <img src="Bent Lines" />

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        • #19
          Admiral in the Red Army
          Afrobean
          • Dec 2003
          • 13262

          Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

          Originally posted by Kit-
          Actually, square roots are by definition positive. But you're getting close.
          rofl

          So I guess -1 squared isn't 1.

          You might simplify things by saying that square roots are always the absolute value, but that's not entirely mathematically correct.

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          • #20
            Private College
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            Kit-
            • Feb 2006
            • 536

            Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

            Solutions to x^2-a=0 are not by definition positive.
            Solutions to x=a^(1/2) are by definition positive.
            <img src="Bent Lines" />

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            • #21
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              Reach
              • Jun 2003
              • 7471

              Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

              There is a contradiction from lines 3 to 4.

              Root (1/-1) does not equal root(1)/root(-1), hence the rest is all incorrect.

              i^2= -1

              -1=-1
              Last edited by Reach; 10-29-2006, 07:58 PM.

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              • #22
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                spyke252
                • Oct 2006
                • 181

                Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                Originally posted by Reach
                Root (1/-1) does not equal root(1)/root(-1), hence the rest is all incorrect.
                I thought that too, but it is true.
                Originally posted by Tokzic
                is the repetition of the last line a metaphorical comparison of the dependance of society on technology today versus the more natural lifestyle of the late nineteenth century

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                • #23
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                  Reach
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 7471

                  Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                  Uh no it isn't. You can't take the root of the denominator there unless it's positive because the result does not exist.

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                  • #24
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                    spyke252
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 181

                    Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                    EDIT, crap. reach is right.

                    The calculation rule

                    (a^.5) * (b^.5) = (a*b)^.5

                    is only valid for real, non-negative values of a and b
                    Last edited by spyke252; 10-29-2006, 08:32 PM. Reason: Stupid Reach.
                    Originally posted by Tokzic
                    is the repetition of the last line a metaphorical comparison of the dependance of society on technology today versus the more natural lifestyle of the late nineteenth century

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                    • #25
                      Away from Computer
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                      chickendude
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 1901

                      Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                      Proof: Everyone in the world is the same age

                      Let n = number of people in the world (a group)
                      Let s(n) = the maximum number of different ages existing in any group of n

                      s(1) = 1, (with one person in the world, everyone in the world is the same age)

                      assume s(k) = 1:
                      by showing that s(k+1) = 1, we show thateveryone in the world has the same age by induction

                      Take two people in the group of k+1. Call these people Al and Bob.
                      Take the group of everyone except Al. This is a group of k people. By the assumption, everyone in this group has the same age.
                      Take the group of everyone except Bob. This is a group of k people. By the assumption, everyone in this group has the same age.

                      Take a third person, Carol. Carol is the same age as Bob and is also the same age as Al by the two statements above, therefore Bob and Al are the same age.

                      Since Al and Bob are generic people in the group, by showing that they are the same age, I have shown that any two people in the group are the same age, therefore everyone in the group of k+1 is the same age, or s(k+1) = 1.

                      By induction, everyone in the world is the same age.

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                      • #26
                        Private College
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                        Kit-
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 536

                        Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                        Inductive hypothesis fails for k=2, since there's no overlap.
                        <img src="Bent Lines" />

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                        • #27
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                          blve23
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 212

                          Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                          true but like i said I DIDNT DO ****!

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