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  • #1
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    OmgWtfItsALongNameOfDoom
    • Apr 2006
    • 54

    A Hard Math Problem

    Ok, this problem was on the AIME (American invitational mathematics examination). I got in two months ago and god, it was hard... Here's a problem from it:

    Let N be the number of consecutive 0's at the right end of the decimal representation of the product 1! (factorial) 2!3!4!....99!100!. Find the remainder when N is divided by 1000.

    I got this after quite a long time of thinking...it's a 3-digit integer. I'm in Math analysis and you should be able to solve it with Math Analysis knowledge. Good luck.
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  • #2
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    blahblah18
    • Aug 2004
    • 1662

    Re: A Hard Math Problem

    Oh I remember the AIME once upon a time, man that's years ago.
    but for now... postCount++

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    • #3
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      blahblah18
      • Aug 2004
      • 1662

      Re: A Hard Math Problem

      ok that's really piss easy for an AIME question, it just has to go by the fact that every # after 5! adds another 0 until you're adding 00 with each one etc etc, then divide that by 1000 is jsut to make it a 3 digit answer so it fitrs on the scantron.. too lazy to do the 5 seconds of math behind it
      but for now... postCount++

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      • #4
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        Kilgamayan
        • Feb 2003
        • 6583

        Re: A Hard Math Problem

        Why would there be a remainder? 100! alone contains a 100*10, which is 1000. Since multiplication and division are commutative, the two 1000s will kill each other and you'll be left with (1!2!3!...99!99!)/10, which is most certainly a whole number.
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        • #5
          TWO THOUZAND COMBO
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          Shashakiro
          • Aug 2005
          • 9082

          Re: A Hard Math Problem

          Nono, you're dividing the NUMBER of zero's by 1000.

          So if there are 1124 zeros, the answer is 124.
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          • #6
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            OmgWtfItsALongNameOfDoom
            • Apr 2006
            • 54

            Re: A Hard Math Problem

            good job
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            • #7
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              blahblah18
              • Aug 2004
              • 1662

              Re: A Hard Math Problem

              what'd you get on the AIME, I think my junior year of high school I got 6, which i was fairly proud of
              but for now... postCount++

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              • #8
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                OmgWtfItsALongNameOfDoom
                • Apr 2006
                • 54

                Re: A Hard Math Problem

                lol, im a freshman in high school, i got a 2 or 3 lol...
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                • #9
                  Super Scooter Happy
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                  Kilgamayan
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6583

                  Re: A Hard Math Problem

                  Oh hey I didn't read that part.
                  I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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                  • #10
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                    Doug31
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 6811

                    Re: A Hard Math Problem

                    Ya, I easily see how to do it. Every number 5 and up adds 1, every number 10 and up adds two, every number 15 and up adds three, every number 20 and up adds four, every number 25 and up adds six, since 25 has 2 5s in it, and so on, all the way up to 100, and add up all these.
                    Last edited by Doug31; 04-21-2006, 06:18 PM.

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                    • #11
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                      bman_006
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 28

                      Re: A Hard Math Problem

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                      • #12
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                        -Izzy-
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 1629

                        Re: A Hard Math Problem

                        Eheh.

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                        • #13
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                          madpear
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 37

                          Re: A Hard Math Problem

                          Yea I'm just finishing taking multivariable calc along with algorithms and data structures at the U of MN IT. You want a challenging math problem, try surface integrals of vector fields like heat flux...

                          But for that specific problem you can just take Zeros in(1!2!...100!)modulus1000=ans
                          Last edited by madpear; 04-21-2006, 05:30 PM.

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                          • #14
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                            flamingspinach
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 270

                            Re: A Hard Math Problem

                            think of it like this - 100^1*99^2*98^3*...*1^100

                            All possible multiples of five there are:

                            100^1, 95^6, 90^11 ... 5^96

                            All multiples of 25 also have an extra five so count those as well:

                            25^76, 50^51, 75^26, 100^1

                            So that's (1+6+11+16+...+91+96) + (76+51+26+1) = (1 + 5 sum(i=0 to 19,i)) + (154) = 1 + 5(19)(20)/2 + 154 = 155 + 50*19 = 155 + 950 = 1105; 1105 mod 1000 = 105, which is the answer

                            You guys forgot the squares, I think o.o But yeah this is one pretty easy AIME problem I'm surprised none of you actually did it yet :P

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                            • #15
                              TWO THOUZAND COMBO
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                              Shashakiro
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 9082

                              Re: A Hard Math Problem

                              wrong =P
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                              Originally posted by Boogiebear
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