Just an idea from JustJono..

[The_Q]

Ok, to clear up what we've decided in previous threads. There is no time at all. Time is the human measurement of duration (aka: **** happening and how long it is happens) There is not time without humans, but obviously, duration keeps moving even if humans aren't around. Otherwise, there'd be no dinosaurs.

And also, there is now past-present-or future, at least in my eyes. Let me explain.
The future moves so quickly into the past there's no "time" for present.

This one's more complex. It has to do with time travel so bear with me. If the future is undecided, it's impossible to go there, so time travel is a one way street. That also means that nobody can travel from the future because that means there is a definate future. I would think that works with the past to. If it's unstable and can be changed, no travel into it either. Unless there's fate. Then it's ok.

So basically, past present and future are all relative terms we use to help measure time. Duration is the pure form of the stuff time is measuring, and it all exists in different rates of duration (see theory of relativity). We feel the need to compile it all into one when it's far too complicated to do any of it at all. All "timelines" are separate but exist on the same plane.

It's all speculation.

Q

[AlbinoLime]

Re: Just an idea from JustJono..

The discovery of electricity never happened. We just currently know there is electricity and that it's available to us.

I did not eat this morning's breakfast. I am just currently full.

OK! So he is saying that the discovery of electricity never happened, and that all of the people who think they know when and who discovered it are wrong because it was never really discovered? And maybe they are not wrong, but would't that mean that electricity was discovered, which would also mean that your "theory" is wrong? If you recorded yourself eating breakfast, you would know that you did actually eat the breakfast.
Also, all of the other video documentation in the world means nothing because none of the things recorded ever happened?

[AniamL]

RE: Re: Just an idea from JustJono..

I kind of disagree with your suggestion that there is no present. It's like a limit in mathematics: take the equation y = x^2/x (x squared over x... yes, this is technically different than just x, because it contains a hole at the origin.) What is the y value at x = 0? It doesn't have one... there's a hole, it's 0/0, it's undefined (indeterminate, technically.) But as x approaches zero, the value becomes closer and closer to 0. This is kind of a 3:30-in-the-morning way I see the present. You can't just say there is no present, because although it only lasts for an infinitesimal amount of time, it does last.

[JustJono]

RE: Re: Just an idea from JustJono..

The theory of there not being a present was Guido's idea, not mine.

@The Q and Albino,

The main idea of the theory is that matter doesn't need a past to be currently where they are. Looking at an electron, it doesn't matter where it used to be. All that matters is where it is now.

I just realized, my theory has a life moral too.