Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

[Reincarnate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI

[MeaCulpa]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

This is frustrating to watch. Ken doesn't address half of the points, and the other half is answered by "The Bible".

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure why I was expecting anything different.

[Artic_counter]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

It was pretty interesting! Thanks for bringing that up! Ken's bit were sometime cringe worthy but otherwise pretty interesting as a whole.

[Snowcrafta]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

I caught the last minute of the debate. I'll have to go stream an archive version of it later

[Xiz]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

Ken is a really REALLY bad guy to represent the religious side haha. He is a joke in the upper leagues of religious studies.

[Reincarnate]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

To be 100% honest, I wasn't even satisfied with Nye's responses.

[Snowcrafta]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

I'm sure he had to dumb it down because

you know

Kentucky

[Nullifidian]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

Ken Ham's argument in a nutshell:

[RARAWR]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

I'm sure he had to dumb it down because

you know

Kentucky

Well thanks for making me laugh....rawr.

-RARAWR

[Dynam0]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

To be 100% honest, I wasn't even satisfied with Nye's responses.

Agreed. He didn't do a very good job as far as debating goes; Ken was a much better talker and addressed the questions more directly. Nye focused a lot of his time repeating things like asking Ken Ham how Creationism will be able to predict the future, exclaiming how much joy discovery brings him, and he kept lobbying for science to stay in curriculum for economic reasons which although true was always out of place in the context of the debate and repeated way too often imo.

[Spenner]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

It was quite frustrating. It almost felt like Ken's debate was mostly constructed to have so many things asked of Bill that would be impossible to address and still have a point of his own that wasn't just refuting the other frustrating points.

I especially disliked the "Hey, we have successful scientists that believe in the bible's scripture. We want to encourage the success that they have accomplished, which we attribute in part to the biblical teachings" and using those guests and whatnot.

He was also by in large preaching to the choir. The fact that it was taking place in a creationist (pet cemetary? lol) museum seemed to draw in a biased crowd, from their reactions when clapping was heard/facial expressions/when jokes were made and the audience was shown.

[eastsideman09]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

Pointless debate, at its core. I liked some of the audience questions though, because they intentionally tried to rustle the debaters jimmies.

Also, if I hear the term "Historical Science" again, I might have an aneurysm.

[RagedBerserker]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

Creationism is quite possibly the most laughable argument to be made. It truly is disappointing that these debates need to take place to sway general opinion in a state in order to keep science in a child's education.

[Snowcrafta]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

Talking about fish asexually reproducing

"This is a real chin stroker"

Made me giggle

[MeaCulpa]

Re: Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham, live debate, going on now

Pointless debate, at its core.

I agree with the points made here about not feeling satisfied by either side. Then I realized near the end that all of this arguing and debating is futile, since nothing will seem to change their belief system. Became obvious pretty quickly that Bill was more interested in selling his pitch about science education...over and over again.