Spirals in Norwegian morning sky

[Cenright]

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I would expect this to be some group's idea of a joke. I would expect the videos to be real, just because of the amount of people who witnessed it. There are so many things to can artificially make these days, and too many people with enough time to sit down and say, "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we..." and thus starts something really crazy.

I wouldn't know for sure, but that sounds like what would be the case 95% of the time.

[HazelleReturns]

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okay

but crop circles are real

I didn't say it wasn't some dumb teenagers with planks, I said the footage and other assorted media was real.

EDIT: not to be mean, though. I feel like we're miscommunicating. Do you think the photos and footage are fake or do you think they're real but someone intentionally created the spectacle, not rockets/aliens/outlandish theories?

The 'how' part, that they're real of course, but it was intentionally made. It's not some alien crap that was spread.

[MrGiggles]

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Definitely a rocket gone awry. This link shows multiple photos of the phenomenon. The third photo from the left shows a clear trail beginning at Earth's surface (or at least down to a location beyond the horizon, which makes sense since the article talks about a White Sea missile launch from a Russian missile sub). Interestingly, there was a failed launch of a Bulava missile from a Russian sub in the White Sea just over a month ago. I would guess this is another test-fire from the Dmitry Donskoi; the new generation of Russian nuclear submarines.

The spiraling trajectory could only come from something under propulsion (not a meteor and not aurora as the spiral is way to tight from those that I've seen), though I suspect the point at which the vapor trail is blue, then white is the result of venting (the blue part), followed by venting and I would guess ignition (white part) of the propellant.

The blue vapor trail seen is probably from Rayleigh scattering; blue because the material being vented is smaller than the wavelength of light being scattered. The white spiral is caused by non-selective scattering of material much larger than the visible wavelengths of light incident upon it, unless it is the result of ignition/burning.
So, my theory to the rocket launch goes like this:
1) nominal launch into the atmosphere.
2) error occurs in propulsion system, perhaps during first stage separation
3) for some reason, failsafe is not engaged (i.e. they didn't blow it up)
4) propellant begins to leak. This seems strange since the Bulava is a variant of the Topol-M/SS-27, which uses a solid propellant. My only further guess is a) the venting material was not propellant or perhaps was attitude control gases? or b) it was solid propellant, but not exiting from the rocket nozzle.
5) a secondary leak occurs farther upstage (perhaps from some internal malfunction/minor explosion) expelling a much larger particle sized vapor (water droplet size?) causing the bright spiral. The material in this spiral plume could perhaps be of the same material as the blue plume if it was ignited and burned in the 'white' color range...a spectral analysis of the plume could have deciphered the material components, but not from the eye-witness photography.
6) Eventually either a) all the propellant was expended or b) was no longer ignited and the plume disappeared. It would be interesting to know where that missile landed (hopefully over the ocean/sea).
Anyways, that's how I interpreted it.

EDIT: minor grammar/spelling corrections

EDIT2: razorhack had an earlier comment/interpretation that is less detailed, but essentially the same as mine.

EDIT3: ****buddy commented below and provided a link to the Bad Astronomy blog that discusses his interpretation of the phenomenon that is uncannily similar to mine (I swear I didn't see it till after I posted! His was a little over an hour earlier than mine).

Apparently this was immediately pre-dawn and the yet-to-rise sun backlit the fuel high up in the atmosphere.

[Mythix]

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Why to you even BOTHER trying to convince yourself and the likes of you that this might even be remotely connected to something unexplainable. It was determined it was UFOs from a submarine just minutes after it hit the news.


The end.

EDIT: And it happened days ago, gl hf The Sun.

[foilman8805]

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It's simply fun to speculate, okay?

So yeah, of all the different theories proposed, the out of control rocket makes the most sense in my head. I still want to use my god damn plasma gun though.

[Dr Tran]

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[flipsta_lombax]

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It's probably just some alien using hypnotic plasma ray beams to awe humans. Probably out of boredom.

[Gundam-Dude]

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the spirals are taking over

:uzumaki:

[Minion133]

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[kommisar]

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~uzumaki

[Izzy]

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The picture looks fake, but the video seems real enough. Wonder what it is. Something similar to the northern lights?

[Mythix]

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The picture looks fake, but the video seems real enough. Wonder what it is. Something similar to the northern lights?

It's all real. Stupid russians. The ones shooting failing missiles, atleast.

[MrGiggles]

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The photo has obviously been Photoshopped to make the spiral as brilliant and clear as it is (levels calculations curves adjustment layers/masks times ten million), but it likely hasn't been modified beyond reason.

[Adamaja456]

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http://www.comcast.net/video/spiral-phenomenon-explained/1355193345/Comcast/popular/

[Kibblre]

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Damn Commies, launching missiles 'n ****.