Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?
Your analogy misses a key point: You can give us evidence to show us that the truck is there. You cannot give us evidence to show us that God is there.
Just because they -really- believe in their faith doesn't mean they will be any better than you at trying to communicate why others should believe. But please, I'd actually quite like your pastor or father to join in the discussion.
Harrassment is one of the reasons why many people are so hostile towards christians. Make it known that if we have any questions or want to talk about it, you will be glad to listen and try to answer them. Hovering around shoving "tracks" (It's Tracts, by the way ) in people's faces telling them that they need to repent or burn doesn't endear you to anybody.
I'm sorry, but that's not correct. The correct extenstion of Cogito Ergo Sum is "I think, therefore I am, your mileage may vary"
Descartes states explicitly that for a given thinking thing, the only thinking thing that can know it exists is itself. He says "I, Rene Descartes know I exist because I am thinking" and if you said "But Rene, I know -I- exist because -I'm- thinking, but -YOU- might just be a clever illusion" he'd say "Yes, exactly! Also, why are you contradicting me? Aren't you just an illusion yourself?"
Don't put the word prove in quotations when you actually mean the word in its literal sense. We put words in hanging quotes to show that we are using the word ironically or sarcastically. You're saying "None of you can prove there is no God" which is correct, and "None of you can prove that there is" which is also correct. But as an objection, it fails because none of us are saying we -can- at least none of us with brains in our heads.
We're talking in terms of liklihoods, evidence and burdens of proof. If anybody anywhere at anytime could have actually -proven- the existance or nonexistance of God, there'd be nothing to discuss.
He went into private property, and presumably would not leave when asked to leave. That means he was -trespassing- which is illegal. It is absolutely right and correct that he be arrested for trespassing where he wasn't welcome. He also has every right to stand around out on the sidewalk and say whatever he likes.
Um...right. What is this pastor's name please?
Originally posted by megamanmaniac
That is all I have to say right now. I cant think of what to say back to all of this becuase like I said I am not that strong in my Christian faith yet but it will build and I will come up with an answer. If I had my pastor with me or my Dad then they would be able to answer becuase they are VERY strong Christians.
My pastor has been arrested more then 3 times for witnessing and handing out tracks on the "public sidewalk" and has been helping our church go out into the public to witness to people.
Originally posted by StringsnKeys
Descartes states explicitly that for a given thinking thing, the only thinking thing that can know it exists is itself. He says "I, Rene Descartes know I exist because I am thinking" and if you said "But Rene, I know -I- exist because -I'm- thinking, but -YOU- might just be a clever illusion" he'd say "Yes, exactly! Also, why are you contradicting me? Aren't you just an illusion yourself?"
None of you can "prove" that there is no God. None of you can "prove" that there is. Yet strangely, there will be hundreds more posts from those of you who think you can "prove" yourself to one another.
We're talking in terms of liklihoods, evidence and burdens of proof. If anybody anywhere at anytime could have actually -proven- the existance or nonexistance of God, there'd be nothing to discuss.
Originally posted by megamanmaniac
You dont know my pastor. He is known world wide
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