Re: Does someone know a pianist who is better than Korsakov Cziffra ?
circus gallop is one of the greatest things i've ever heard
+1 for ffr
circus gallop is one of the greatest things i've ever heard
+1 for ffr
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Re: Does someone know a pianist who is better than Korsakov Cziffra ?
I know we've been through this before, but ...what a load of **** @ the 1.5 week thing. It's 11 pages long, at least in the version I have at home. It's not by any means easy to read, and it would take you that long to get through the thing and be able to play it ...coherently at all, let alone up to speed.
GGC is also far from easy and I don't know anyone that would consider it so. Also, saying speed is 'not' the hard part is nonsense, and is your very very biased opinion. I know several piano players that struggle greatly with speed and could never match mine, but play beautifully, and I admire their performances.
Anyway, being able to play quickly and play a piece expressively etc are different skills, but it's not like 'anyone' can just play quickly. It's not exactly easy; actually, I know very very few people that can play quickly (I'll define quick as playing FOTBB up to speed), and uh, no one that could play GGC as quickly as Cziffra. It's incredibly hard to play that fast. It's more than just practise...speed and expressive skill fall together as one in my opinion. I don't see how you develop one without the other.
Also, I think Cziffra played this piece almost perfectly. I've only ever seen it played live a few times and in comparison it was almost laughable. Excellent performance.Last edited by Reach; 01-25-2009, 08:41 PM.
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Re: Does someone know a pianist who is better than Korsakov Cziffra ?
Lol @ Reach. GGC and the Chopin Ballade weren't hard for me to read at all. I learned all the fast/difficult parts first, which I took about 1 practice session for each section. And my version of GGC was 11 pages long. Believe what you want. I do not care what you think lol.
Edit: Just to clarify, "full speed" refers to the speed that it is supposed to be played at - not as fast as Cziffra played it, since he just plays things much faster than they are meant to be played. It's faster than the FFR version by a good amount, though.
BTW I practice for a MINIMUM of 4-5 hours EVERY day.
Also, Reach you must SUCK so much at the piano if you're saying this to me (which is contrary to what I've heard, but I have no other explanation of why you'd be saying this). Sorry dude :P
Yes, I take your response as a personal attack towards me.
Oh and also, YOU'RE the one who's being biased because of what you CANNOT accomplish. Just becuase you cannot do it, and you don't know anyone else who can, doesn't give you the right to tell me I can't.Last edited by Sprite-; 01-25-2009, 10:16 PM.Comment
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Re: Does someone know a pianist who is better than Korsakov Cziffra ?
oh SNAPOriginally posted by DossarLX ODIOriginally posted by Flaming_DingleberryComment
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Re: Does someone know a pianist who is better than Korsakov Cziffra ?
Cziffra's performance on GGC was great. GGC's really meant to be a showy piece, and Cziffra did a great job at taking the intended sound and emphasizing it through his mastery of speed and technique.
I would say that what makes a good pianist really depends. Some people have absurd speed. Others are brilliant at interpreting or mastering the dynamics. A handful have very developed technical skills. Others can improvise beautifully.
BTW Sprite, your use of "full speed" was not exactly clear, so I wouldn't say that Reach's response was a personal attack, as you both clearly approached the concept differently. However, your response to him is... well, clearly an attack full of flames, which I think is a tad over-defensive considering the nature of the initial miscommunication.
In any case, GGC in 1.5 weeks is feasible, so I don't see why that should be an issue.Last edited by MrRubix; 01-26-2009, 06:23 AM.Comment
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The answer to your question is yes.BIG, OBNOXIOUS, ORANGE TEXTComment
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K, end of thread
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Re: Does someone know a pianist who is better than Korsakov Cziffra ?
where is lord carboOriginally posted by j-rodd123Comment
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Re: Does someone know a pianist who is better than Korsakov Cziffra ?
THREDZ OVER when i SEZ IS OVAR
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This ends the thread. Behans is amazing though lol~Grand Chase Stats~Comment
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Re: Does someone know a pianist who is better than Korsakov Cziffra ?
Cziffra is very talented in terms of technical proficiency, but I wouldn't hail him as a world-class virtuoso (in regard to expression). I prefer Michelangeli, especially for the entrancingly metronomic and crystalline quality of his interpretations (for instance, Gaspard de la Nuit - Ondine). Sofronitsky was a brilliant Scriabinist, as was Horowitz, whose vivid tone and endearing sentimentality lent a unique sense of identity to his performances. Both Richter and Rubinstein were communicative geniuses, the former able to evoke emotion with sublime phrasing and phenomenal touch, and the latter capable of building atmosphere with magnificent lyricism and superbly natural rubato. Cliburn was exceptionally expressive as well, his famous victory in Moscow an enduring testament to his outstanding musicality. As for fire and passion, Gilels has few equals. Finally, as far as present pianists go, Kissin and Blechacz have proved quite promising for their age, and Hamelin has established himself as a master of technique and improvisation.Comment
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