HDTV and YOU!

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Re: HDTV and YOU!

Oh, I see. You're not a misguided individual. You're a Sony hater.

Actually, I own quite a bit of equipment that is manufactured by Sony totaling tens of thousands of dollars. You're a pretentious little ****** with little knowledge of the industry beyond what wikipedia and your RSS feeds tell you, and armed with your pseudo-fact you think you know the path to all right and good.

If you think I'm full of shit, watch the way the industry goes. If I'm still around here in two years, we'll have notes to compare.

I am involved with all sorts of technology, from hardware and software to the most important thing: content distribution of all kinds. All the industry showings I've seen are leaning toward having digital distribution, with physical copies as a secondary format hardly as useful. All the content providers for all types of media are most interested in on-demand content. And, to add to that, all the manufacturers that are not named Sony (but they're still doing it too), such as Panasonic, Samsung, LG, and others, are integrating network capabilities into their TVs for the on-demand stuff. Even many companies that produce DVDs are including a digital copy for download.

I will laugh when the on-demand explosion occurs. We're headed there, whether you like it or not.

Oh and Samsung blu-ray players now have integrated Netflix support. That sounds like a bridge to all-digital distribution to me.

I just don't get it. Do any of you have any insight?

You really don't get it. Spend 30 fucking seconds at CES and tell me how wrong I am.

[Afrombean]

Re: HDTV and YOU!

Actually, I own quite a bit of equipment that is manufactured by Sony totaling tens of thousands of dollars.

Tons of people begrudgingly own Sony products even knowing they're terrible. But the simple fact that you brought up Sony as far as Blu-ray is related shows that your hatred of them in this case is unjustified. They are the folks behind the format, not the manufacturer of the hardware or even necessarily the software.

You're a pretentious little ******

lol

with little knowledge of the industry beyond what wikipedia and your RSS feeds tell you

You're right to a degree. I'm not an industry insider (and you are at 19? I'd love to hear the story there), but I do know what people want. People want quality and people want physical. I saw an article the other day that had a graph of survey data and it indicated that roughly 50% of people surveyed would prefer a physical medium to purely digital. There was a group of undecideds, and I believe those who would actively prefer digital was around 30%. I can go hunt for the article if you'd like, I'm sure that I can find it again once I get home from work.

Incidentally, no, I don't use RSS feeds. There are a couple news sites I check out to keep up to date (note: site, not RSS feed), but they don't report on HDTV or even Blu-ray all that often because it's generally outside their scope. Nice try though.

and armed with your pseudo-fact you think you know the path to all right and good.

Can you define pseudo-fact? Would that be things like the fact that Blu-ray is faster adopted than DVD? That the market penetration of BD is higher than LD at its peak? That more people are adopting HD every day? That people prefer physical medium? That HD isn't as expensive as many people think? That it is not functionally realistic to stream Blu-ray quality 1080p either across the Internet or even across typical television reception methods? That ISPs are putting caps on bandwidth in place that if adopted across the board would make downloading high quality movie files over the Internet impossible or extremely expensive, download rates not considered?

If you think I'm full of ****, watch the way the industry goes. If I'm still around here in two years, we'll have notes to compare.

I can already tell how things will be.

It'll work out like the music industry. There will be digital distribution that many people will use, but it will not kill physical media. People will still buy physical and because people still buy it, the companies will still make it, even once we're to the point where DD is able to get on the same level as BD in terms of quality and ease of use.

I am involved with all sorts of technology, from hardware and software to the most important thing: content distribution of all kinds. All the industry showings I've seen are leaning toward having digital distribution, with physical copies as a secondary format hardly as useful.

Tell that to the people who still buy CDs when they could just as easily go to iTunes.

Furthermore notice that it doesn't matter what the industry wants to do if people aren't buying it.

All the content providers for all types of media are most interested in on-demand content. And, to add to that, all the manufacturers that are not named Sony (but they're still doing it too), such as Panasonic, Samsung, LG, and others, are integrating network capabilities into their TVs for the on-demand stuff. Even many companies that produce DVDs are including a digital copy for download.

Is anyone arguing that DD doesn't exist or that it never will? Of course it will. I'm just saying that it won't be able to do what DVD or BD can.

Physically exist.

I will laugh when the on-demand explosion occurs. We're headed there, whether you like it or not.

That's dandy, but I'll be buying my movies on a physical format regardless. Actually, DD of TV shows would probably be pretty nice though... never was much of a fan of the multi-disc box sets.

Oh and Samsung blu-ray players now have integrated Netflix support. That sounds like a bridge to all-digital distribution to me.

Side-support for such a thing is an amenity. You're talking about DD like it will destroy all other methods of distribution. Look at every other medium "on the chopping block" of digital distribution. People still buy books, people still buy CDs, people still buy games. Yes, they also buy digital books, mp3s, and downloaded games, but that doesn't mean that the physical form doesn't still exist and still carry its weight in their respective industries.

You really don't get it. Spend 30 ****ing seconds at CES and tell me how wrong I am.

If you're going to troll me, I'd appreciate if you put a little more effort in it. I'm quite sure that spending "30 ****ing seconds at CES" would not tell me why my DVD of Scrubs has a lot of its cuts placed where the frame is composed of one field before the cut and one field after the cut.

ps I'm not being a jackass, I really want to hear the story on how a 19 year old person such as yourself could be as deep in the industry as to make you feel entitled to talk the way you do.

pps one more thing: notice that this topic is actually supposed to be about HD and how it's better than you might think. BD is a component of HD, but only so far as to say that quality 1080p content isn't even available in any other form. Regardless of my personal feelings toward BD/DD or the future of said interaction, the point of this thread is to point out that HD is good and people should be interested in it.