So I went to church tonight....

[Grandiagod]

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There is somewhat of a logical basis, though, because, according to modern science, the laws of thermodynamics can't be broken.

if that's the basis of the argument, inventing a force that can break the laws of thermodynamics isn't how you go about solving the problem. If you could scientifically explain this force, or at least provide evidence to it's existence beyond it being an unsupported option in the arsenal of universe theories then it would have something of a platform to stand on. However right now it's essentially "We don't know how this can happen, so something above the laws of the universe had to make it happen." which isn't a terrible thought, but it's not supported by any evidence so it's not a good debate point.

[Necros140606]

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SO... uh, I guess.... uh.... What's church like for you guys? If you don't go, why don't you go?

do not want to read the entire thread so i'll just say that church is like god's shop. you go in there, and in exchange of your time and support, your "sins" are forgiven and your soul will be saved. now, look at those modern churches. they all try to look colored and shiny, with music, games, and such things. isn't this another merchandise? then look at the churches back in the middle ages. they were obscure, dark and squallid, since they didn't need people to choose them. people were forced in them by common sense and culture. of course, now that they can no longer force religion down your throat, they will try to appear as an happy, welcoming family. that's merely the result of a changement in the world, it's not like they do that because they want you to be happy. of all power installments of all time, church has done some of the most dreadful atrocities ever. and killed more people, directly and indirectly, than nazism did. however, people still think it's okay to forget about the past and they changed and blabla. then let's forget about the millions people killed by nazism and let's welcome them in our parliaments!!!! church is not the word of god (i don't think there's any god either but that's another story). bible is a myth book given for golden true. it's all so absurd than i can't picture myelf walking in a church even in the next ten billion years, just how i wouldn't picture myself being a nazi.

[who_cares973]

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i went to church a couple months ago

and apparently god stopped communism


also

[Necros140606]

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i went to church a couple months ago

and apparently god stopped communism

....

[devonin]

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I'm torn between taking the time and effort involved in quoting about 30 posts in this thread and responding to all of them, or just locking this thread as ridiculous.

Oh wait, it's in CC...

[robertsona]

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so does that mean neither

[devonin]

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Well, I was going to lock it, and then I was like "But a bunch of people are going to be whiners about it if I do"

[FaulkApsargs]

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if that's the basis of the argument, inventing a force that can break the laws of thermodynamics isn't how you go about solving the problem. If you could scientifically explain this force, or at least provide evidence to it's existence beyond it being an unsupported option in the arsenal of universe theories then it would have something of a platform to stand on. However right now it's essentially "We don't know how this can happen, so something above the laws of the universe had to make it happen." which isn't a terrible thought, but it's not supported by any evidence so it's not a good debate point.

Well, it's universally agreed upon by historians that Jesus existed. The problem people have is in the way the records of his miracles (and the resurrection) are translated or interpreted. So, one could (and should if you want to be completely objective) use the historicity of the Bible for evidence (there is a HUGE 7 volume book that explains all the proof for the Bible that I could point you to, if you're interested). I'm not saying that I do, but one could.

And, if something does exist that breaks the laws of science, science won't be able to explain it. So, I think it's a perfectly fine topic of debate.

[robertsona]

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Who cares really?
I don't exactly see the point of leaving this thread open. It will probably degenerate into religion babble like "ATHIEST SUCK" "NO U" but I guess you can just leave it open for now until it does that. If it doesn't do that, I'll be surprised.
In a way it kind of already has.
If you're forced to lock it, I just say ignore the whiners, who cares about them.
EDIT: To Devonin's post, obviously.
EDIT2: I guess people might be pissed off at me for posting this but boo-hoo screw you.

[MalReynolds]

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Sometimes I like praying because I like thinking that someone is listening to my problems but choosing to ignore them because it's easier than just having no one to talk to and having my problems ignored anyway.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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Woah wait isn't this supposed to be about experiences sitting through church and not how to explain wheather the bible or evolution is correct?

[MalReynolds]

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craaaawwwwwllllliiinnnnng in my skiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnn

[CensorBar]

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[B]"Doesnt the Big Band Theory Disprove the Genesis account of Creation?
Try to think of any explosion that has produced order. Does a terrorist bomb create harmony? Bo, they cause chaos. How could a big bang produce apple trees, a rose, sunsets, the nose, and mouth? There is obviously creation involved. Evolutionists seem to me like theyre purposefully ignoring all the evidence that points towards it, like a detective who see's all the evidence for a murder yet still calls it a suicide.

[robertsona]

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[B]"Doesnt the Big Band Theory Disprove the Genesis account of Creation?
Try to think of any explosion that has produced order. Does a terrorist bomb create harmony? Bo, they cause chaos. How could a big bang produce apple trees, a rose, sunsets, the nose, and mouth? There is obviously creation involved. Evolutionists seem to me like theyre purposefully ignoring all the evidence that points towards it, like a detective who see's all the evidence for a murder yet still calls it a suicide.

hahahahahahaha what
first, type in normal color, its a total bitch to see.
second wtf this doesn't make any sense.
Like...seriously?
EDIT: also it's big bang
EDIT2: also what evidence is there that some dude was like "dude im gonna create the universe and **** now."

[MalReynolds]

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thessssssssseeeeeee woundsssssssss they willllllll not healllllllllll