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  • #16
    I am the liquor
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    Calcium Deposit
    • May 2007
    • 706

    Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

    I would rather you locked it, that would have been a kinder fate. And who cares if a company might be unable to do what they are doing? What if they are? It is still a great topic, it's just hypothetical, as was the theme with anecdote. Unless of course you also get rid of hypothetical CT threads. Then, I guess, you are justified.

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    • #17
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      Coolboyrulez0
      • Aug 2006
      • 10046

      Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

      moonvertising.. lol.
      https://soundcloud.com/cbrbreakcore
      https://cbrrecords.bandcamp.com/

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      • #18
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        poleaxe
        • Oct 2006
        • 341

        Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

        ... No advertising on the moon it is not allowed by me!

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        • #19
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          bluguerrilla
          • Apr 2006
          • 3966

          Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

          So, in case anyone is interested, here's the problem.

          How bright would a laser have to be in order to advertise on the moon

          a) during a full moon?

          b) during a new moon?

          Diameter of the Moon: 3.5e6 m

          The distance from the Earth to the Moon: 3.8e8 m

          Brightness of the Moon, during a full moon: 0.25 lux

          Brightness of the Moon, during a new moon: 0.001 lux


          You can assume both that the laser light is green (555 nm) and that the moon is actually a disk.

          I may have given you more information than you need.

          I won't be sharing the answer at any point in time after to this post.

          When I first read the title of this thread I thought: How do they know what I do on my saturday nights?

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          • #20
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            verra
            • Mar 2004
            • 813

            Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

            Moonvertising? .....what's next
            Yep, it's me

            Check out my tunes on SoundCloud!

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            • #21
              I am the liquor
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              Calcium Deposit
              • May 2007
              • 706

              Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

              See, the problem, the theme of this wasn't that how it could happen, but what you think about the mere idea of advertising on the moon and its implications. Despite the playfulness of the presentation of the situation, I am bringing up an important issue of where media should draw its line. Some of you caught on to that, others well...

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              • #22
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                Selinica
                • Dec 2005
                • 98

                Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                Advertising on the moon? Foul.

                Advertising on a billboard? Great

                The thing is, a billboard can be taken down. The moon... well, different story. Using a laser on the moon to advertise is blatantly idiotic because, when the ad is defunct, you will probably need to erase it somehow, messing up the moon bit by bit. In any case, companies and advertising agencies shouldn't fiddle with nature like that to get their point across. I really do enjoy a good full moon, and such advertising would ruin nice events like eclipses and such.
                I'm licking a SPOON.

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                • #23
                  Very Grave Indeed
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                  devonin
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 10142

                  Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                  Like I said in Calcium Deposit's PM about the issue. It isn't even a hypothetical situation because it simply isn't possible, and even if it were, it would never be allowed.

                  Someone would have to actually own the moon in order to put an advertisement on it, and treaties signed between pretty much every major power with a space program have decreed that nobody can own space.

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                  • #24
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                    pntballa18
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 3357

                    Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                    Hey guys. They aren't taking over the moon for themselves. They aren't permanently engraving anything on the moon. They're shining a laser at it. This isn't illegal, nor should it be. Like some people have said, the moon belongs to all, so who's to say they don't have the right to shine a laser at it? Think of a painting in a museum. Anyone in the museum can look at it. It's not vandalism if you shine a laser at a painting. The same goes for the moon.

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                    • #25
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                      JKPolk
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 3737

                      Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                      China didn't sign that agreement. It's also not impossible for them to get lasers to focus on the moon. So, this isn't unfeasible.

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                      • #26
                        I am the liquor
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                        Calcium Deposit
                        • May 2007
                        • 706

                        Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                        Originally posted by devonin
                        Like I said in Calcium Deposit's PM about the issue. It isn't even a hypothetical situation because it simply isn't possible, and even if it were, it would never be allowed.

                        Someone would have to actually own the moon in order to put an advertisement on it, and treaties signed between pretty much every major power with a space program have decreed that nobody can own space.
                        Hypothetical situations are not always possible. That is why they are hypothetical, I guess.
                        So answer me this: If people are not allowed to put messages on the moon, then why are they allowed to try? If it happens to succeed, then according to you every nation will throw a fit. So wouldn't it be in our nation's (U.S.) best interest to stop them?

                        Of course it most likely won't succeed, not on the first try, but anything is possible in a hypothetical situation.

                        Oh and any other private messages you would like to make public? I am sure you have some juicy ones you e-stud you.

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                        • #27
                          Very Grave Indeed
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                          devonin
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 10142

                          Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                          You said the same thing in your private message as you said in your public message. I simply said the same thing in my public message as I did in my private message. Is that seriously an issue for you? I didn't even say what you said in your message, I just said "Like I said in my response to your PM etc" yeesh.

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                          • #28
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                            JKPolk
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 3737

                            Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                            It wouldn't cause every other country to throw a fit. It would cause a country who cared to take it to the UN forum. Ooh, threatening. Scary. But that's all that could happen.

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                            • #29
                              I am the liquor
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                              Calcium Deposit
                              • May 2007
                              • 706

                              Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                              Originally posted by devonin
                              You said the same thing in your private message as you said in your public message. I simply said the same thing in my public message as I did in my private message. Is that seriously an issue for you? I didn't even say what you said in your message, I just said "Like I said in my response to your PM etc" yeesh.
                              Not really, I stopped caring about this thread since it is in chit chat.

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                              • #30
                                Very Grave Indeed
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                                devonin
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 10142

                                Re: Beer, sex, and lasers.

                                That seems pretty prejudicial of chit-chat.

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