Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

[Tasselfoot]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

42 minutes is NOT a WR of super metroid... here is a 36x run in 5 segments: http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl?SuperMetroid_036

here is a 38x run, single segment: http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl...Metroid_SS_038

so, yea... also, i've found a lot of the stuff on TG to be bogus, regardless of their "verification" methods. Like, I'm the WR holder of a few Top Gear Rally scores, as per http://geocities.com/n64highscores/TopGearRally.html but as per TG, the top time on Coastline is 1:04, a time that is, IMO as an "expert" on the game, bogus. And my times are much faster than any other record on their site for the game.

I don't trust the stuff on TG... *shrugs*




EDIT: Rai... they are different genres. TAS' are like Techno... machine generated. They take plenty of skill to do well, and are impressive... but nothing will replace someone actually PLAYING the game. Speed runs are like classical or jazz... it won't be perfect, but it will be damn close, and is impressive because of what the person can make the character do. Like the 70-star run of Mario64. It is the most amazing run I've ever seen. The guy pulls off so many crazy stunts without dying once, and the tricks get harder and harder as he progresses later into the game. http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl?Mario64_SS_10132

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

First of all, if that's what you think then you care about the performance more than the composition, which I personally enormously disagree with as I am a music-maker

Also please never ever call [good] electronic music "machine generated"
It is very very much carefully and painstaikingly crafted, much like a TAS

PS I also listen to classical music... for the piece, not the schmoe who's playing it

All that said, I understand your point of view, I just strongly personally disagree is all.

[TheRapingDragon]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

Nice speedrun but I still feel the only speedrun that is proper is one that doesn't abuse the game or is tool-assisted. The only ever speedrun I perfected was Ninja Gaiden (NES). I beat the game without dying in 16 minutes. If I had a camcorder I would have been able to show it, but ahwell, at least I know I did it haha. I've also beaten stuff like Super Ghosts'n'Goblins without dying, but that took far too long to ever do.

[Pumble]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

TAS and old-school speedruns are each fun to watch for completely different reasons. Personally though, i enjoy watching TAS more for being much more visually impressive, unless i actually see a someone doing a speed run in person instead of just watching a video of them doing it.

Nice run anyways, Sonic games always make for fun videos.

[-Izzy-]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

Oh i bet thats how they did that super mario one to. Thats so dissapointing.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

PS - http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl?Sonic2_SS_2423

a REAL run of Sonic 2, in 24:23. 3 minutes off the TAS time.

[SnappleManiac]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

I guess thats pretty impressive...

I hear the Mario one was done with some whistles or something that helped.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

Mario 3 for NES is the only Mario game with whistles... and they are a perfectly legal method of progressing through the game.

How can someone never have played SMB3. Greatest video game of all time, when compared to other games of the same time.

[Omeganitros]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

There are very few speedruns that I take the time to view due to their often large file sizes. However, there are 3 games that I am very glad that I took the time to look at: A Banjo-Tooie speedrun, Bomberman Hero speedrun, and a 100% Complete Metroid Prime speedrun. They're all VERY cool.

Well, maybe not so much the Bomberman Hero one.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

Never DLed the Banjo-Tooie run, as I never played it... but I played BK and greatly enjoyed that run. I watched the BH run a long time ago, and don't really remember it. I did not watch the 100% MP run, as I never played MP... but I did watch a speedrun of the game... I forget which... either the low% or the normal SS.

Long games that I've never played are not all that interesting to watch. ANY game that I have played is amazingly awesome to watch. Some games I've never played are plenty fun to watch though... not many, unfortunately.

[Omeganitros]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

Have you watched the Kirby 64 speedrun? It's the most BORING THING IN THE WORLD.

[SethSquall]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

PS - http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl?Sonic2_SS_2423

a REAL run of Sonic 2, in 24:23. 3 minutes off the TAS time.

Thats awesome. Id still love to see one were they collect the emeralds though.

[Neonatrias]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

Beautiful...Now that I've seen it I think I'll do some runs on Sonic 3. =/ Bye-bye life.

[Omeganitros]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

I want to see a Sonic 3 two-player speed run. THAT would be tight.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: Sonic 2 defeated: 21 mins

Omega: No, I haven't watched the Kriby64 run. Doesn't interst me. A run on Kirby's Dreamland, or whatever it is called, for GB... that I'd watch. As I could beat that game hella fast when I was ten.

Neon: check out the Sonic Center... they list all the records for every sonic game, as well as forums and whatnot. Best sonic resource on the net.