If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

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  • #61
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    QueenAshy
    • Sep 2017
    • 606

    Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

    Originally posted by Charu
    I had a cat named Baby.

    She was an amazing cat. She loved me and always went to me when I was growing up to pet her, play with her, lick my hair.

    She was an amazing cat, if just a bit of a bully when it came to other cats, but she was a super sweetheart to everyone in my family.

    One day though, we noticed she was getting lumps. Soon after, we learned she wasn't eating. We tried our best to figure out what was going on, but one vet visit was enough to tell us the worst, she had cancer.

    We should've put her down there, we didn't. We took her back home, and tried to make her comfortable. It was obvious she wasn't though. She would sit in a corner, away from everyone, not going to me, still not eating. It got to a point in which she was just... pure bones due to her cancer and her just not eating.

    ...After 2-3 weeks, we finally decided to put her down, but she may as well have been dead those weeks. She wasn't happy, she wasn't meowing, and she certainly wasn't showing the love she showed before.
    If it were me, and someone held a gun to my head saying “off your pet or you’re gonna die”

    I would probably go with the best and most natural option, releasing them in a forest so they can spend their last days in piece and surrounded by the dirt from which they came; instead of in a man-made vets office, with spiky needles going in them, bright lights shining in their face, and being forced to lay down on a hard bed for their final moments.

    I wouldn’t wanna go in a hospital either. If anything, I’d ride a boat out into the middle of the ocean, and fire a gun through the side of my head.

    Hope this provides some insight…

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    • #62
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      QueenAshy
      • Sep 2017
      • 606

      Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

      Originally posted by Charu
      No excuses please. Don't blame medicine for what you're saying.

      Just try to understand the other side.
      You’re right. I should’ve maybe just taken the day off. I’m getting a bit worked up, it feels like everyone’s out to get me.

      Medication is certainly a big part in this tho, hormone levels too, even tho in my case, they’re both practically the same cause of the nature of gender transition.

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      • #63
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        SKG_Scintill
        • Feb 2009
        • 3877

        Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

        Originally posted by QueenAshy
        I wouldn’t wanna go in a hospital either. If anything, I’d ride a boat out into the middle of the ocean, and fire a gun through the side of my head.
        nooooo that's cheating
        no guns
        just suffer in the middle of that ocean until you starve





        Originally posted by bluguerilla
        So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
        ___
        . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
        . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
        .

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        • #64
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          Wayward Vagabond
          • Jul 2012
          • 5873

          Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

          Originally posted by QueenAshy
          I’m not the one killing them tho, I’m simply eating the product of another executioner that I don’t even know.

          I’m not even buying the meat half the time, it’s usually others getting meat for me, whether for dinner or what.
          I hope you realize how inconsistent you're being by saying this.

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          • #65
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            DaBackpack
            • Mar 2014
            • 918

            Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

            I mean to be fair, pets don't consent to vaccinations, being adopted, and plenty of other things that are well-understood to increase the longevity and happiness of pets.

            Animals also don't consent to being killed for human consumption.

            The notion of "consent" doesn't really seem to translate to animals that well.


            Originally posted by Moogy
            no one cares
            Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
            there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
            that's kind of a sad statistic

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            • #66
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              Charu
              • Mar 2006
              • 6263

              Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

              Leaving a cat/dog in the wilderness would probably "put them down" for sure, but it certainly wouldn't be as peaceful as you're making it out to be. It'd be very violent.

              Survival of the fittest and all that jazz.


              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
              Had a very shiny nose
              And if you ever saw it
              You could even say it glows

              All of the other Snivies
              Used to laugh and call him names
              They never let poor Charu
              Join in any Snivy games

              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


              Originally posted by Vendetta21
              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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              • #67
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                choof
                • Nov 2013
                • 8596

                Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                Originally posted by QueenAshy
                I’m not the one killing them tho, I’m simply eating the product of another executioner that I don’t even know.
                I’m not even buying the meat half the time, it’s usually others getting meat for me, whether for dinner or what.
                this argument is used in court when someone knows about the crime of murder and it actually means that you're complicit in the murder of literally billions of animals per year
                if you truly believe that what that guy did was murder then logically speaking you should be completely and utterly outraged at what the meat industry does to animals
                but ofc we know you're not because logic and mental brainpower doesn't exactly seem to be your strong suit

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                • #68
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                  SKG_Scintill
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3877

                  Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                  I wish my donkey would consent





                  Originally posted by bluguerilla
                  So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                  ___
                  . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                  . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                  .

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                  • #69
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                    QueenAshy
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 606

                    Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                    Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
                    nooooo that's cheating
                    no guns
                    just suffer in the middle of that ocean until you starve
                    But I can understand how guns work and the finality of ending it all…

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                    • #70
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                      pokelda
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 3878

                      Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                      Originally posted by Gradiant
                      wowza!

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                      • #71
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
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                        Charu
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6263

                        Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                        Originally posted by QueenAshy
                        But I can understand how guns work and the finality of ending it all…
                        There you go

                        Now apply that with a lethal injection from the veterinarian and it's a very similar opinion.


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • #72
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                          DaBackpack
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 918

                          Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                          Originally posted by Charu
                          There you go

                          Now apply that with a lethal injection from the veterinarian and it's a very similar opinion.
                          I mean to be fair it's not a good analogy because suicide is "consenting" while lethal injections technically would not be

                          I still argue that thinking in terms of consent is not fruitful in the context of discussing putting down animals


                          Originally posted by Moogy
                          no one cares
                          Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                          there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                          that's kind of a sad statistic

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                          • #73
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                            choof
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 8596

                            Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                            Originally posted by QueenAshy

                            I would probably go with the best and most natural option, releasing them in a forest so they can spend their last days in piece and surrounded by the dirt from which they came; instead of in a man-made vets office, with spiky needles going in them, bright lights shining in their face, and being forced to lay down on a hard bed for their final moments.
                            hell yeah dude whenever my cat gets terminally ill instead of providing her with some peace with a quick and painless death I'll release her into a nearby forest, effectively abandoning her to a lonely death at the hands of some predator who will tear her to shreds

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                            • #74
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                              pokelda
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 3878

                              Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                              lady your moral compass is all sorts of messed up lol

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                              • #75
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                                QueenAshy
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 606

                                Re: If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

                                Originally posted by choof
                                this argument is used in court when someone knows about the crime of murder and it actually means that you're complicit in the murder of literally billions of animals per year
                                if you truly believe that what that guy did was murder then logically speaking you should be completely and utterly outraged at what the meat industry does to animals
                                but ofc we know you're not because logic and mental brainpower doesn't exactly seem to be your strong suit
                                I’ve condemned mass killing of animals and slaughterhouses before tho.

                                “Humans: The holocaust was all bad and terrible*

                                Also humans: Let's kill billions of turkeys and chickens every year, more than the total death toll of the holocaust”

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