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  • #16
    嗚呼
    FFR Simfile Author
    Moogy
    • Aug 2003
    • 10303

    Contrary to popular belief, I do not play only RPGs. In fact, I happen to be quite good at a great deal of action/adventure games. I believe I hold 2 or 3 world records on Sonic Adventure 2, actually. But that's besides the point.

    But yeah, I grew up on the great 2D games of the SNES. 3D is very nice, and makes for some awesome games and gameplay. But the style of most 3D games just don't cut it for me. An example of a 3D game I think has great graphics is Viewtiful Joe. It doesn't try to be ultra-realistic; it tries to be cartoony and fun. And really, being fun is what games are all about. I love cel-shading for this same reason. Just not the realistic junk.
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    • #17
      Retired Staff
      87x
      • Dec 2002
      • 4379

      @Moogy - Just as a question, can you name a 3d that isn't side scrolling that you can actually say that you like? Im not trying be sarcastic in anyway. I just think that you like 2d. And if it can't be 2d, it has to be a side scroller. Personally I think 3d side scrollers are a waiste of time. But thats just because developers never through in anything to fill the gap. The save a whole lot of space just by makeing the game a side scroller, then waiste a whole lot more space by not extending the game, or adding in more cutscenes. Really is stupid IMO.


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      • #18
        (The Fat's Sabobah)
        FFR Music Producer
        jewpinthethird
        • Nov 2002
        • 11711

        Originally posted by Omeganitros
        The problem with most "3-D" games is that they're not really THAT three-dimensional. Sure, there's polygons and stuff, but how many axis things can your main character move on?
        Sup SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS AND ICO. And no, I'm not going to shut up about it until ya'll play it.

        Also, I am a big fan of racing games so of course I think 3D kicks 2D's ass.

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        • #19
          Retired Staff
          87x
          • Dec 2002
          • 4379

          Hey Jewpin, leave it alone. Nobody wants to play that game unless you give them a 23 chapter Non-Fictional novel about it. You might as well just call up the creators and pass the phone down the line of Dan Rather fanboys.


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          • #20
            Banned
            Bursurk_Lurk
            • Sep 2005
            • 2360

            Melty Blood is one of the main reasons to why 2D owns 3D.

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            • #21
              嗚呼
              FFR Simfile Author
              Moogy
              • Aug 2003
              • 10303

              Ico is a very cool game, Jewpin. I will be picking up Shadow of the Colossus as soon as I get money.

              87x: There are almost no side-scrolling 3D platformers. The only ones I can think of are the Klonoa series, which are the best side-scroller and action games ever made, however. Klonoa is really more 2 1/2D, though; only Klonoa 2 is really 3D. Like I said, I enjoy most 3D platformers a great deal, especially if they have a ton of stuff to unlock like the Sonic Adventure series. Super Monkey Ball is awesome, of course. And of course, this isn't even getting into RPGs. I love most RPGs unconditionally - I don't really care if they're 3D or 2D. I just prefer 2D to 3D because it looks much better in every aspect. 2D sprites on 3D environments works well, too.
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              • #22
                Admiral in the Red Army
                Afrobean
                • Dec 2003
                • 13262

                Originally posted by Moogy
                2D sprites on 3D environments works well, too.
                Normally, I'd agree with you, but I own a copy of DragonBall Z Legends. The gameplay is awesome for being so original, but the sprites were very poorly done.



                Not only do the sprites look bad, but they don't have enough points of rotation, so on the finishing moves where the camera rotates all around, it looks really shitty.

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                • #23
                  嗚呼
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  Moogy
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 10303

                  It's a DBZ game. What do you expect?

                  PS: You bought a DBZ game.
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                  • #24
                    FFR Player
                    jamuko
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 1083

                    If you want an example of a good game with 2D sprites on 3D environments...




                    <3.

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                    • #25
                      Admiral in the Red Army
                      Afrobean
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 13262

                      Originally posted by Moogy
                      It's a DBZ game. What do you expect?
                      Good point. Those BANDAI bastards clearly have no idea how to make a decent game just because it is a DBZ franchise.

                      Originally posted by Mogg... lolz
                      You bought a DBZ game.
                      Actually, I borrowed it from a friend in like 5th grade and never gave it back to him.

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                      • #26
                        FFR Player
                        jamuko
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 1083

                        Originally posted by Afrobean
                        Originally posted by Moogy
                        It's a DBZ game. What do you expect?
                        Good point. Those BANDAI bastards clearly have no idea how to make a decent game just because it is a DBZ franchise.
                        They really shouldn't have an excuse to make crappy games like this, but that doesn't stop them. You've gotta admit that most games based on a franchise like that turn out to be crap, regardless of how good or bad the source material was. They figure that hey, if the games will fly off the shelves due to the name/license alone, why bother putting a ton of money into making it actually good?
                        ♪~
                        Always Happy! Smile! Hello!
                        I like delicious things
                        I shoot eye beams at the things I hate and make them explode! (Yay!)
                        So Happy! Smile! Hello! It's a picnic every day
                        There's lots of happiness in my pocket
                        So let's play forever~

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                        • #27
                          嗚呼
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          Moogy
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 10303

                          jamuko: Your image link is broken. However, I can see from the URL that it is a picture of SO2. Therefore, you are cool.
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                          • #28
                            FFR Player
                            jamuko
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 1083

                            o.O Doesn't look broken to me... well, I went and Photobucket'd it now anyway.

                            Man, that game is awesome.
                            ♪~
                            Always Happy! Smile! Hello!
                            I like delicious things
                            I shoot eye beams at the things I hate and make them explode! (Yay!)
                            So Happy! Smile! Hello! It's a picnic every day
                            There's lots of happiness in my pocket
                            So let's play forever~

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