The PS3 Is Here.

[GOodforSKATEboarding]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

Is that directed to me?

[nforcer06164]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

At least you figured that much out.

[GOodforSKATEboarding]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

At least you figured that much out.

Well in that case, for one, for you to call me an idiot and in the following sentence use wrong punctuation, well that makes you look like the idiot. It should have been:

"This isn't TGB, so I apologize in advance, but..."

Secondly, for you to speak to me in such a manner as if you know me, and to disrespect someone that you don't even know, well that makes you look insolent as well. So now you look like an insolent idiot.

Lastly, I do in fact know what I'm talking about, believe me, I study this stuff on a regular basis.

[kw]

Oh I forgot, don't put "..." or squeek will go bananas.

[zidart]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

Haha, understandable, but I'm talking potential. Also it's not only the games length that takes up the space. I mean this gives them room to do anything imaginable, this means more players, better graphics, smoother game play, eventually better online play(huge maps, massive amounts of players etc), and a lot more. It's not only about the length of the game in ever case. You know?

[kw]

more players? have you seen MMO's lately? better graphics ok that would cover half of the blue ray , smoother gameplay? ok what does the size have to do with that i can get great gameplay from a NES game. and better online play well that's a point i can't deny. but seriusly you forgot something important:

it would take years to develop a game like that. and it would cost much money for the developers. and i guess it is very hard to develop a game that covers that much

[Squeek]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

Oh I forgot, don't put "..." or squeek will go bananas.

Except he used it one time. Correctly.

Uncompressed data on a disc doesn't mean it's going to be better than compressed data. Ever hear of lossless compression? That's been the general standard for years now.

All it means is that Blu-Ray discs are filled with pointless data for the sake of filling discs.

[GOodforSKATEboarding]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

Except he used it one time. Correctly.

Uncompressed data on a disc doesn't mean it's going to be better than compressed data. Ever hear of lossless compression? That's been the general standard for years now.

All it means is that Blu-Ray discs are filled with pointless data for the sake of filling discs.

Even with games compressed, game developers still, at times, have trouble fitting it all on one disc, thus the multi disc games. Although I do see your point, they do have a lot more space than they need, but who's to say that they don't end up finding a useful way of taking up that space. I mean, it might not be tommorow, but it's yet another possibility that none of the other consoles can claim possible. You know? What I'm doing is just pointing out the potential of the PS3, I'm not downing the other consoles, or formats on that note, just saying I think that Sony will put their hardware to good use. I mean they haven't done too bad in that region for quite a while.

[kw]

[zidart]

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still it would take long time to fill 55GB, remember how long were final fantasy XII and twilight princess in development? how much time do developers need to fill 55GB?

[MYZZ]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

PS3 is picking up speed .. especially after E3
$500 for 60 gig and $600 for 80 gig .. for what the ps3 is, its a great price
personally i like their games, the top for me is MGS4 .. the only thing that Wii has that i have a bit interest in is Super Smash Brothers Brawl .. which i can just play at a friends house so w/e

[zidart]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

well they had the best media conference in the E3, developers may give the ps3 another chance

[Tps222]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

Are you suggesting that developers, prior to E3, had completely given up on the PS3?

Sony has some of the best 3rd party support out of any of the consoles.

You, my friend, are absurd.

[zidart]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

well yes is true haven't you noticed the number of games that once were playstation exclusives but now they are not? katamary, devil may cry, dragon quest, and some rumors of final fantasy. those are only examples i know there's more of them

[nforcer06164]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

Face it, Sony's strength has been dwindling since the plague of failing PS2s. Their decision to go with Blu-ray for "future-proofing", saying it will last at least two extra generations, is an absurd musing. With what the Wii has done as far as taking chances and shattering the stereotypical view of gaming has proven that the only direction now is up. What if Sony has to drop their future-proofing plans and redesign or redevelop just to keep up with the industry? Look to Sega for example.

Blu-ray is maybe a good decision one or two generations from now, but like HD and DVD was five and ten years ago, it's way too much money to have any value right now. It's throwing away money right now.

[zidart]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

well the problem right now is not only the console but the games, sony is losing exclusives and many other types of games. and also the wii is having new genres that are can only exist in there. and the XBOX well i think they are getting advantage of all this situation

[Tps222]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

Do you not understand how exclusive titles work? It doesn't really have much to do with the quality of the console; it has to do with how much money and what contractual obligations 3rd party developers are involved in with each gaming company. The main reason Sony is losing exclusives is because they are choosing so. They realize that X-box and Wii have the finanical ability to compete for competitive contracts with 3rd party developers, and also realize that people will buy the console with or without exclusives. The mainstream gaming population will buy the PS3 regardless of how many exclusives they have, so why would Sony want to spend the extra millions and millions of dollars it costs to obtain exclusive rights when they could save a lot of money and still pull in a relatively similat profit?

[MalReynolds]

Re: The PS3 Is Here.

Do you not understand how exclusive titles work? It doesn't really have much to do with the quality of the console; it has to do with how much money and what contractual obligations 3rd party developers are involved in with each gaming company. The main reason Sony is losing exclusives is because they are choosing so. They realize that X-box and Wii have the finanical ability to compete for competitive contracts with 3rd party developers, and also realize that people will buy the console with or without exclusives. The mainstream gaming population will buy the PS3 regardless of how many exclusives they have, so why would Sony want to spend the extra millions and millions of dollars it costs to obtain exclusive rights when they could save a lot of money and still pull in a relatively similat profit?

I think that's actually pretty wrong. It's in the hands of the developers to make as much money as possible, and while Sony might pay them handsomly for exclusive rights, they would make more by going to other systems as well. It's not because Sony is being generous or because Sony realizes that the other systems are going to be viable regardless, it's because third party publishers are realizing that the most profit no longer rests on the shoulders of one console, rather, of a whole bunch at once.