TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

[argo15]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

ok, um well it's sorta hard for me to explain in a post so i'll just say freaky told me to do it. ilu

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

Four possible wolves.

rzr, sc, ilu, gun(because I haven't talked to him yet)

Game will continue until all the purples die or fulfilled their objectives. We will know when all the wolves are dead if the nightly wolfings end.

The list of 4 people are based on a process of elimination.

Keep in mind that just because rzr seems to have a legit "I vote during the night" as part of his role doesn't mean he can't be a wolf. As far as I am aware of, most people are having their voting powers altered, and it is obviously the case for the wolf team. And speaking which, only being able to vote at nighttime, only being able to post when making a vote, and giving phantoms to any given player but your voting power is cut into half (sc) all sound like voting abilities that wolves would have.

With that said, ilu dies this phase, I will be seering sc, if it comes back red/green, we will have him lynched as well as rzr.

I don't care about my survival, my objective is to help humans win so I'm happy when there are no more wolfings happening and the purples can carry on with their objectives.

The list of 4 people comes from eliminating everyone else as wolf suspects. I have explained everything to argo and he agrees with me, but I cannot reveal anything into the thread because it compromises the well being of the human team.

But actually, I only have 3 suspects. I just didn't talk to gun yet.

Work tomorrow, I will be sleeping.

Oh yea, everyone vote ilu please.

[rzr]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

a sticky tree (2:39:05 AM): care to explain?
Argo1516 is available (2:39:05 AM)
Argo1516 (2:40:49 AM): oh
Argo1516 (2:40:56 AM): well, don't wolf me =P
Argo1516 (2:40:59 AM): anyway
Argo1516 (2:41:13 AM): (censored, Argo told me his role here) 
a sticky tree (2:42:08 AM): lol
Argo1516 (2:42:28 AM): i'd go with voting ilu btw, freaky wanted me to vote you but i've really got nothing on you
a sticky tree (2:42:45 AM): you have nothin gon ilu either
Argo1516 (2:42:52 AM): ilu claims his role says he's not allowed to post in thread other than to vote
a sticky tree (2:43:02 AM): so?
Argo1516 (2:43:04 AM): my list is this
a sticky tree (2:43:07 AM): ok
Argo1516 (2:43:09 AM): 
Suspects:
Gun92
AC1speakerbox
iluswirl
tupacodaman
rzr
Argo1516 (2:43:17 AM): so its a hard decision
a sticky tree (2:43:30 AM): why to everyone there
Argo1516 (2:43:48 AM): i know all other roles in the game lol
a sticky tree (2:44:01 AM): you know mine
a sticky tree (2:44:04 AM): ilu's
Argo1516 (2:44:05 AM): these ones are the ones that arn't neccessarily human
a sticky tree (2:44:14 AM): oh
Argo1516 (2:44:33 AM): some others are neutral with personal goals
a sticky tree (2:44:34 AM): I'm still not following
a sticky tree (2:44:57 AM): how does my role or ilu's nnot suggest human?
a sticky tree (2:45:12 AM): does dying a phase later/voting at night suggest wolf?
argo1516 is offline (2:48:58 AM)

Your IM will be delivered when the buddy goes online.
a sticky tree (2:53:53 AM): or doe snot postign in the thread suggest wolf?
argo1516 is offline (2:53:54 AM)

Your IM will be delivered when the buddy goes online.

This is the reason Argo and Freaky are trying to say to lynch ilu. Really stupid in my opinion, and sure not a reason to lynch someone. Like ilu and I talked about, I'm really starting to think freaky is a wolf. Or red, or just in general isn't helping. But, as you guys know, I can't vote during the day. my vote can't be changed, either. So, my safety on u84 will have to remain. Also, I'll post anything ilu wants to say in the thread for him.

[rzr]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

I think freaky's a wolf. Post coming in a minute.

[rzr]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

freakysnots (2:53:20 AM): im f5ing really fast
a sticky tree (2:53:25 AM): lol
a sticky tree (2:53:29 AM): I'm reading your post first
freakysnots (2:53:36 AM): oh
a sticky tree (2:53:44 AM): I'll tell you when I posted it, man.
a sticky tree (2:53:46 AM): Chill
freakysnots (2:53:49 AM): k
freakysnots (2:57:29 AM): kwik
freakysnots (2:57:33 AM): i have to work tomorrow
freakysnots (2:57:39 AM): and i'd like it if there isnt a safety orgie
freakysnots (2:57:45 AM): and one of the wolf suspects gets lynched
a sticky tree (2:59:16 AM): there ya go
freakysnots (2:59:23 AM): thanks bro
a sticky tree (2:59:24 AM): he said
a sticky tree (2:59:31 AM): it's because of his role
a sticky tree (2:59:35 AM): not sounding very human
freakysnots (2:59:43 AM): **** argo
a sticky tree (2:59:54 AM): ?
freakysnots (2:59:58 AM): for telling you that
freakysnots (3:00:06 AM): but there is no better person to lynch right now
a sticky tree (3:00:21 AM): So we have a kitb
freakysnots (3:00:25 AM): you are retarded
a sticky tree (3:00:28 AM): it's better than killing a random human
freakysnots (3:00:44 AM): kill someone who claims to only have the power to vote power x2
freakysnots (3:00:48 AM): or
freakysnots (3:00:51 AM): a KitB
freakysnots (3:00:58 AM): and no
freakysnots (3:01:01 AM): its not even a KitB
freakysnots (3:01:06 AM): because wolves have the advantage there
a sticky tree (3:01:10 AM): how?
a sticky tree (3:01:11 AM): and
freakysnots (3:01:15 AM): vote count is hidden
freakysnots (3:01:22 AM): they can manipulate it so that a specific person dies
freakysnots (3:01:32 AM): and
freakysnots (3:01:39 AM): everyone else is useful
freakysnots (3:01:41 AM): except for your role
freakysnots (3:01:42 AM): and
freakysnots (3:01:45 AM): ilu's role
freakysnots (3:01:52 AM): why would you wanta KitB
freakysnots (3:01:54 AM): when there are seers
freakysnots (3:01:57 AM): and revival
freakysnots (3:01:57 AM): and
freakysnots (3:01:58 AM): guards
freakysnots (3:01:59 AM): out there
a sticky tree (3:02:03 AM): plural?
freakysnots (3:02:06 AM): crap
a sticky tree (3:02:10 AM): lmao
freakysnots (3:02:11 AM): didnt mean to plurel that
a sticky tree (3:02:15 AM): tolf you to stop
freakysnots (3:02:22 AM): but yea
freakysnots (3:02:24 AM): 1 guard
a sticky tree (3:02:30 AM): seers?
freakysnots (3:02:33 AM): 1 seer
a sticky tree (3:02:38 AM): "you"?
freakysnots (3:02:42 AM): yep
a sticky tree (3:02:46 AM): we have a few theories
freakysnots (3:02:51 AM): so do i
a sticky tree (3:03:01 AM): I'll show you mine if you show me yours
freakysnots (3:03:03 AM): why do your vote count sound suspiciously like wolves
a sticky tree (3:03:05 AM): ;]
freakysnots (3:03:06 AM): er
freakysnots (3:03:08 AM): i mean
freakysnots (3:03:10 AM): vote manipulation
a sticky tree (3:03:19 AM): Mine's not manipulation
freakysnots (3:03:24 AM): you vote during the night
a sticky tree (3:03:27 AM): so
freakysnots (3:03:29 AM): its a manipulationish type thing
a sticky tree (3:03:31 AM): that's not manipulation
freakysnots (3:03:36 AM): sc puts phantoms on people
a sticky tree (3:03:41 AM): okay
freakysnots (3:03:42 AM): ilu cant post
freakysnots (3:03:43 AM): unless
a sticky tree (3:03:43 AM): that's not me
freakysnots (3:03:51 AM): he votes for someone
freakysnots (3:03:52 AM): and his vote is 2x
freakysnots (3:03:56 AM): those 3 all sound wolfish
freakysnots (3:03:57 AM): and guess what
freakysnots (3:04:03 AM): everyone elses roles seem legit
freakysnots (3:04:05 AM): except for yours
a sticky tree (3:04:21 AM): you're just so perceptive, aren't you?
freakysnots (3:04:31 AM): yes i am
freakysnots (3:04:34 AM): but i dont know for certain
freakysnots (3:04:36 AM): until I seer sc
freakysnots (3:04:40 AM): so for this phase
freakysnots (3:04:41 AM): ilu goes
a sticky tree (3:04:45 AM): no
a sticky tree (3:04:46 AM): he doesn't
freakysnots (3:04:51 AM): then who goes
a sticky tree (3:04:56 AM): nto up to me
freakysnots (3:05:00 AM): a random KitB which wolves can manipulate
a sticky tree (3:05:00 AM): it's up to the pope who vote
freakysnots (3:05:03 AM): ok
freakysnots (3:05:06 AM): who are you voting for
a sticky tree (3:05:08 AM): people* lol
a sticky tree (3:05:12 AM): u84
a sticky tree (3:05:14 AM): already did
freakysnots (3:05:15 AM): ****
freakysnots (3:05:17 AM): i keep forgetting that
a sticky tree (3:05:18 AM): we gonna go ober this againm?
a sticky tree (3:05:20 AM): lol
freakysnots (3:05:20 AM): sorry
freakysnots (3:05:20 AM): ****
freakysnots (3:05:21 AM): k
freakysnots (3:05:40 AM): i have a theory
a sticky tree (3:05:44 AM): Do tell
freakysnots (3:05:44 AM): wolves: rzr sc ilu
a sticky tree (3:05:49 AM): lol
a sticky tree (3:06:05 AM): and your logic behind it is because our roles aren't that exciting we're wolves?
a sticky tree (3:06:07 AM): so then
a sticky tree (3:06:09 AM): logically
a sticky tree (3:06:17 AM): all regular humans are wolves too
a sticky tree (3:06:19 AM): cool
a sticky tree (3:06:23 AM): who's green, I'll go vote em
freakysnots (3:07:19 AM): ac1 posted he was human in thread
freakysnots (3:07:24 AM): the other one PM'd me
a sticky tree (3:07:28 AM): kk
freakysnots (3:07:29 AM): ac1 is green
a sticky tree (3:07:38 AM): so they're def wolves then
a sticky tree (3:07:42 AM): because
a sticky tree (3:07:45 AM): like me sc and ilu
a sticky tree (3:07:50 AM): they have non excitign roles
freakysnots (3:07:51 AM): no
freakysnots (3:07:53 AM): 2 roles
freakysnots (3:07:59 AM): have objectives that involve humans
freakysnots (3:08:01 AM): hey guess what
freakysnots (3:08:03 AM): 2 human claims
a sticky tree (3:08:13 AM): spiffy?
freakysnots (3:08:17 AM): yes indeed
a sticky tree (3:08:23 AM): you're making no sense
freakysnots (3:08:25 AM): because
freakysnots (3:08:28 AM): i am seer
freakysnots (3:08:31 AM): and you dont know what i know
freakysnots (3:08:38 AM): and i cant tell you because you are a wolf
a sticky tree (3:08:45 AM): or are you?
freakysnots (3:08:53 AM): if im a wolf, everyone in this game is ****ed
freakysnots (3:08:59 AM): ive done plenty to prove im not
a sticky tree (3:09:05 AM): not quite
a sticky tree (3:09:06 AM): so
freakysnots (3:09:09 AM): naw
a sticky tree (3:09:13 AM): what is your opinion on the floors?
a sticky tree (3:09:15 AM): like
freakysnots (3:09:20 AM): i know what floors are for
a sticky tree (3:09:31 AM): do yu think it's one wolf on each and one blue and stuff?
freakysnots (3:09:35 AM): objectives for the purples
freakysnots (3:09:39 AM): i dont believe one wolf is on each floor
freakysnots (3:09:40 AM): etc
freakysnots (3:09:43 AM): but
freakysnots (3:09:44 AM): i know
freakysnots (3:09:48 AM): purple's objectives
a sticky tree (3:09:48 AM): well what do you think the patter is?
freakysnots (3:09:55 AM): there are no patterns
a sticky tree (3:10:08 AM): everyone is put on their floor at random?
freakysnots (3:10:10 AM): no
freakysnots (3:10:19 AM): there are no patterns that you will need to be conserned with
freakysnots (3:10:24 AM): concerned*
freakysnots (3:10:25 AM): however
freakysnots (3:10:27 AM): there are patterns
a sticky tree (3:10:31 AM): I'm asking you a question
freakysnots (3:10:36 AM): and im not answering it
a sticky tree (3:10:39 AM): why?
freakysnots (3:10:41 AM): there is a purpose to that
freakysnots (3:10:45 AM): purples
a sticky tree (3:10:56 AM): am I a purple? No, so why hide it from me?
freakysnots (3:10:58 AM): no
freakysnots (3:11:03 AM): cant tell you because of purples
a sticky tree (3:11:03 AM): I'm going someowhere with this
freakysnots (3:11:06 AM): i want them on my side
a sticky tree (3:11:12 AM): and I want to know what you have to say
a sticky tree (3:11:15 AM): on your side? lol
freakysnots (3:11:18 AM): yes
a sticky tree (3:11:32 AM): it's liek talkign to a little kid
freakysnots (3:11:37 AM): i dont even have to talk to you
a sticky tree (3:11:38 AM): you're so stubborn
freakysnots (3:11:39 AM): i already know you are a wolf
a sticky tree (3:11:43 AM): no Freaky
a sticky tree (3:11:46 AM): you know ****
freakysnots (3:11:47 AM): im not sure why we are having this conversation
freakysnots (3:11:51 AM): so
a sticky tree (3:11:53 AM): you assume things
freakysnots (3:11:54 AM): im going to sleep
freakysnots (3:11:54 AM): when i wake up
freakysnots (3:11:57 AM): i expect ilu to be dead
freakysnots (3:11:58 AM): if not
freakysnots (3:12:00 AM): im posting everyone's role
freakysnots (3:12:01 AM): and quitting
freakysnots (3:12:02 AM): bye
a sticky tree (3:12:04 AM): no balls
freakysnots (3:12:23 AM): oh wait no
freakysnots (3:12:25 AM): when i get home i mean
freakysnots (3:12:27 AM): around like
freakysnots (3:12:28 AM): 10
freakysnots (3:12:29 AM): yea that
freakysnots (3:12:40 AM): actually no
freakysnots (3:12:41 AM): thats dumb
a sticky tree (3:12:44 AM): no ****
freakysnots (3:12:47 AM): im not posting everyone's roles
freakysnots (3:12:50 AM): because who needs to know them
freakysnots (3:12:51 AM): already does
freakysnots (3:12:58 AM): im only helping wolves if i do
freakysnots (3:13:03 AM): but do me a favour
freakysnots (3:13:04 AM): kill of ilu
freakysnots (3:13:12 AM): or influence it or something
a sticky tree (3:13:13 AM): that makes no sense
a sticky tree (3:13:15 AM): as uaual
freakysnots (3:13:17 AM): ****
freakysnots (3:13:20 AM): convince people to kill ilu
a sticky tree (3:13:42 AM): if ilu and I were wolves why would I kill him? How would I kill him? plus, you know, we're not wolves
freakysnots (3:13:57 AM): no i dont
freakysnots (3:14:05 AM): all im saying is
freakysnots (3:14:09 AM): kill off ilu
freakysnots (3:14:26 AM): and
freakysnots (3:14:31 AM): you obviously are paired up with all of them
a sticky tree (3:14:40 AM): all of who?
a sticky tree (3:14:42 AM): sc and ilu
a sticky tree (3:14:42 AM): no
freakysnots (3:14:43 AM): you are defending sc
a sticky tree (3:14:44 AM): freaky
freakysnots (3:14:45 AM): and you wont vote for ilu
a sticky tree (3:14:53 AM): I'm dfending peope you make stupid accusatoins against
freakysnots (3:14:57 AM): actually
freakysnots (3:15:05 AM): i have made plausible accusations
a sticky tree (3:15:07 AM): if you accused your mom of being a wolf because she has hair i'd defedn her too
freakysnots (3:15:12 AM): otherwise i wouldnt be posting in the first place
a sticky tree (3:15:17 AM): no you haben't
freakysnots (3:15:22 AM): do you agree with me
a sticky tree (3:15:30 AM): have you noticed people aren't doing what you tell them to?
freakysnots (3:15:33 AM): that a lot of people are having their votes altered in this game
freakysnots (3:15:36 AM): stfu for 2 sceonds
a sticky tree (3:15:43 AM): have you noticed people are starting not to trust you
freakysnots (3:15:44 AM): A lot of people are having their votes altered this game
freakysnots (3:15:51 AM): Vote count is hidden
freakysnots (3:15:55 AM): meaning
freakysnots (3:16:02 AM): some random bs is going on
freakysnots (3:16:06 AM): making it a mystery game
a sticky tree (3:16:10 AM): I doubt it's random
freakysnots (3:16:13 AM): wolves obviously can manipulate
freakysnots (3:16:18 AM): the fact that vote count is hidden
freakysnots (3:16:20 AM): to lynch non wolves
a sticky tree (3:16:29 AM): what?
freakysnots (3:16:29 AM): agree with me so far?
freakysnots (3:16:52 AM): The hidden vote count is an advantage towards wolves
a sticky tree (3:16:56 AM): I was following you up to the part about vote count hidden to lycnh non wolves
freakysnots (3:16:59 AM): ok
a sticky tree (3:17:03 AM): oh
a sticky tree (3:17:04 AM): yeah
freakysnots (3:17:04 AM): get it?
freakysnots (3:17:05 AM): ok
freakysnots (3:17:07 AM): so roundbox
freakysnots (3:17:12 AM): must have made it so that
freakysnots (3:17:16 AM): wolves can benefit from this
freakysnots (3:17:24 AM): by giving them ++ vote powers than humans
freakysnots (3:17:25 AM): and
freakysnots (3:17:29 AM): making humans weaker
freakysnots (3:17:32 AM): i.e. everytime i seer
freakysnots (3:17:33 AM): i get a phantom
freakysnots (3:17:36 AM): following me so far?
a sticky tree (3:17:40 AM): can you see the vote count?
freakysnots (3:17:45 AM): vote count hidden
freakysnots (3:17:48 AM): but
freakysnots (3:17:52 AM): you follow me
freakysnots (3:17:52 AM): ok?
a sticky tree (3:17:53 AM): can YOU see it?
freakysnots (3:17:56 AM): i cant
a sticky tree (3:17:58 AM): no I dont follow you
a sticky tree (3:18:06 AM): listen I got something to say cuz i'm lost
freakysnots (3:18:09 AM): ok
freakysnots (3:18:11 AM): i will do my best to explain
a sticky tree (3:18:45 AM): how do you know wolves can manipulate vote copunt?
freakysnots (3:18:52 AM): because
freakysnots (3:18:57 AM): vote count is hidden
freakysnots (3:19:03 AM): i get phantoms added to me
freakysnots (3:19:05 AM): for seering people
freakysnots (3:19:08 AM): and
freakysnots (3:19:19 AM): other peoples votes are being manipulated
a sticky tree (3:19:24 AM): by their role
freakysnots (3:19:26 AM): who are claiming purple/blue
a sticky tree (3:19:26 AM): not the wolves
freakysnots (3:19:28 AM): but look
a sticky tree (3:19:32 AM): no no no
a sticky tree (3:19:36 AM): answer me
freakysnots (3:19:36 AM): so you are telling me
freakysnots (3:19:43 AM): roundbox only change the votes for humans
freakysnots (3:19:46 AM): and not wolves
freakysnots (3:19:56 AM): and all the wolves are normal
a sticky tree (3:19:56 AM): how woudl I knwo that?
freakysnots (3:20:00 AM): and get 1 vote each
freakysnots (3:20:17 AM): im seer and my vote count gets changed
a sticky tree (3:20:20 AM): you said the wolves can manipulate the vote count. There's only one way you would know that.
freakysnots (3:20:21 AM): (i get phantoms added to me)
freakysnots (3:20:24 AM): why in the ****
freakysnots (3:20:33 AM): do you think wolves cant add phantoms to people
freakysnots (3:20:35 AM): or
freakysnots (3:20:39 AM): have a boost in votes
a sticky tree (3:20:59 AM): how do you know they can't? How do you know anything about the wolves for sure?
a sticky tree (3:21:02 AM): unless you are one.
a sticky tree (3:21:05 AM): I rest my case.
a sticky tree (3:21:07 AM): osting
freakysnots (3:21:09 AM): ok you arent even listening to me
a sticky tree (3:21:11 AM): posting*
freakysnots (3:21:15 AM): im a seer
freakysnots (3:21:18 AM): i seer people
freakysnots (3:21:20 AM): i get a phantom
freakysnots (3:21:29 AM): sc says he is wolfsbane
a sticky tree (3:21:32 AM): look
a sticky tree (3:21:34 AM): I folllow you
a sticky tree (3:21:39 AM): I get what you're saying
freakysnots (3:21:44 AM): k
freakysnots (3:21:46 AM): there
freakysnots (3:21:47 AM): we are clear
freakysnots (3:21:56 AM): now you see why i suspect you three
a sticky tree (3:22:02 AM): I understand that you're telling me the wolves can manipulate the gane based on the twist upon the voting
a sticky tree (3:22:07 AM): but no
freakysnots (3:22:17 AM): and i expected that as your answer
freakysnots (3:22:19 AM): because i am accusing you
freakysnots (3:22:27 AM): but go on
a sticky tree (3:22:35 AM): you're also telling me you know thinsg for sure about the wolvesm, that nbo player could kow without being one
freakysnots (3:22:48 AM): that does not make sense
a sticky tree (3:22:56 AM): that's what you said
freakysnots (3:22:58 AM): the fact that i get phantoms when i seer people
freakysnots (3:23:04 AM): and the fact that vote count is hidden
freakysnots (3:23:17 AM): guarentees that wolves get a bonus in votes
freakysnots (3:23:39 AM): oh wait
freakysnots (3:23:42 AM): I should post this
freakysnots (3:23:43 AM): 2 seconds
a sticky tree (3:24:18 AM): continue, I'll be right back, I'm getting food
a sticky tree (3:31:29 AM): back

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

[03:16] freakysnots: you obviously are paired up with all of them
[03:17] astickytree: all of who?
[03:17] astickytree: sc and ilu
[03:17] astickytree: no
[03:17] freakysnots: you are defending sc
[03:17] astickytree: freaky
[03:17] freakysnots: and you wont vote for ilu
[03:17] astickytree: I'm dfending peope you make stupid accusatoins against
[03:17] freakysnots: actually
[03:17] freakysnots: i have made plausible accusations
[03:17] astickytree: if you accused your mom of being a wolf because she has hair i'd defedn her too
[03:17] freakysnots: otherwise i wouldnt be posting in the first place
[03:17] astickytree: no you haben't
[03:17] freakysnots: do you agree with me
[03:17] astickytree: have you noticed people aren't doing what you tell them to?
[03:17] freakysnots: that a lot of people are having their votes altered in this game
[03:17] freakysnots: stfu for 2 sceonds
[03:18] astickytree: have you noticed people are starting not to trust you
[03:18] freakysnots: A lot of people are having their votes altered this game
[03:18] freakysnots: Vote count is hidden
[03:18] freakysnots: meaning
[03:18] freakysnots: some random bs is going on
[03:18] freakysnots: making it a mystery game
[03:18] astickytree: I doubt it's random
[03:18] freakysnots: wolves obviously can manipulate
[03:18] freakysnots: the fact that vote count is hidden
[03:18] freakysnots: to lynch non wolves
[03:18] freakysnots: agree with me so far?
[03:18] astickytree: what?
[03:19] freakysnots: The hidden vote count is an advantage towards wolves
[03:19] astickytree: I was following you up to the part about vote count hidden to lycnh non wolves
[03:19] freakysnots: ok
[03:19] astickytree: oh
[03:19] astickytree: yeah
[03:19] freakysnots: get it?
[03:19] freakysnots: ok
[03:19] freakysnots: so roundbox
[03:19] freakysnots: must have made it so that
[03:19] freakysnots: wolves can benefit from this
[03:19] freakysnots: by giving them ++ vote powers than humans
[03:19] freakysnots: and
[03:19] freakysnots: making humans weaker
[03:19] freakysnots: i.e. everytime i seer
[03:19] freakysnots: i get a phantom
[03:20] freakysnots: following me so far?
[03:20] astickytree: can you see the vote count?
[03:20] freakysnots: vote count hidden
[03:20] freakysnots: but
[03:20] freakysnots: you follow me
[03:20] freakysnots: ok?
[03:20] astickytree: can YOU see it?
[03:20] freakysnots: i cant
[03:20] astickytree: no I dont follow you
[03:20] astickytree: listen I got something to say cuz i'm lost
[03:20] freakysnots: ok
[03:20] freakysnots: i will do my best to explain
[03:21] astickytree: how do you know wolves can manipulate vote copunt?
[03:21] freakysnots: because
[03:21] freakysnots: vote count is hidden
[03:21] freakysnots: i get phantoms added to me
[03:21] freakysnots: for seering people
[03:21] freakysnots: and
[03:21] freakysnots: other peoples votes are being manipulated
[03:21] astickytree: by their role
[03:21] freakysnots: who are claiming purple/blue
[03:21] astickytree: not the wolves
[03:21] freakysnots: but look
[03:21] astickytree: no no no
[03:22] astickytree: answer me
[03:22] freakysnots: so you are telling me
[03:22] freakysnots: roundbox only change the votes for humans
[03:22] freakysnots: and not wolves
[03:22] freakysnots: and all the wolves are normal
[03:22] astickytree: how woudl I knwo that?
[03:22] freakysnots: and get 1 vote each
[03:22] freakysnots: im seer and my vote count gets changed
[03:22] astickytree: you said the wolves can manipulate the vote count. There's only one way you would know that.
[03:22] freakysnots: (i get phantoms added to me)
[03:22] freakysnots: why in the ****
[03:22] freakysnots: do you think wolves cant add phantoms to people
[03:23] freakysnots: or
[03:23] freakysnots: have a boost in votes
[03:23] astickytree: how do you know they can't? How do you know anything about the wolves for sure?
[03:23] astickytree: unless you are one.
[03:23] astickytree: I rest my case.
[03:23] astickytree: osting
[03:23] freakysnots: ok you arent even listening to me
[03:23] astickytree: posting*
[03:23] freakysnots: im a seer
[03:23] freakysnots: i seer people
[03:23] freakysnots: i get a phantom
[03:23] freakysnots: sc says he is wolfsbane
[03:23] astickytree: look
[03:23] astickytree: I folllow you
[03:24] astickytree: I get what you're saying
[03:24] freakysnots: k
[03:24] freakysnots: there
[03:24] freakysnots: we are clear
[03:24] freakysnots: now you see why i suspect you three
[03:24] astickytree: I understand that you're telling me the wolves can manipulate the gane based on the twist upon the voting
[03:24] astickytree: but no
[03:24] freakysnots: and i expected that as your answer
[03:24] freakysnots: because i am accusing you
[03:24] freakysnots: but go on
[03:25] astickytree: you're also telling me you know thinsg for sure about the wolvesm, that nbo player could kow without being one
[03:25] freakysnots: that does not make sense
[03:25] astickytree: that's what you said
[03:25] freakysnots: the fact that i get phantoms when i seer people
[03:25] freakysnots: and the fact that vote count is hidden
[03:25] freakysnots: guarentees that wolves get a bonus in votes
[03:26] freakysnots: oh wait
[03:26] freakysnots: I should post this
[03:26] freakysnots: 2 seconds

No tl;drs.

However tl;dr version:

In this conversation, I get sick and tired of rzr (who is a wolf) telling me that I'm stupid and I lack reasoning and common sense. So I decided to confront him 1 on 1 about my reasoning.

I propose that wolves OBVIOUSLY gain an advantage from the hidden vote count considering that it does not help the humans at all. With this said, common sense suggests that the wolves OBVIOUSLY will be able to manipulate the votes to take full advantage of the hidden vote count. I know this is plausible because I receive a phantom every time I seer a player. It also just happens that three players right now are gaining voting manipulations i.e. throwing phantoms at people, 2x voting power, (rzr didn't claim his vote was any more powerful, but he says he has to vote at night time. This is obviously bs since why would his vote be no different than a vote during the day if he has to go the trouble of voting at nighttime).

And rzr refuses to listen to me because you know why? He is a wolf.

His argument is: freaky, you are a wolf for knowing that wolves have more powarful votes than humans and im going to ignore the fact that everyone that freaky suggests are wolf have really wolfish changes to their vote.

I don't know how to get any more clearer than this. All I am saying is, take out ilu this phase and I seer sc for next phase. If sc is red, we can automatically assume rzr is a wolf.

[03:02] freakysnots: but there is no better person to lynch right now
[03:02] astickytree: So we have a kitb
[03:02] freakysnots: you are retarded
[03:02] astickytree: it's better than killing a random human

Also, this makes him an obvious wolf.

Now if you will excuse me, I will probably wait for rzr's response or go to sleep. I have work tomorrow and I'm going to be a zombie.

[23:40] Tehroundbox: you put too much effort into this

stfu, I like winning.

[roundbox]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

stfu, I like whining.

lolrite

[rzr]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

[03:16] freakysnots: you obviously are paired up with all of them
[03:17] astickytree: all of who?
[03:17] astickytree: sc and ilu
[03:17] astickytree: no
[03:17] freakysnots: you are defending sc
[03:17] astickytree: freaky
[03:17] freakysnots: and you wont vote for ilu
[03:17] astickytree: I'm dfending peope you make stupid accusatoins against
[03:17] freakysnots: actually
[03:17] freakysnots: i have made plausible accusations
[03:17] astickytree: if you accused your mom of being a wolf because she has hair i'd defedn her too

Here you go, Freaky. This is where I said my most important defense. You're accusing people based off of really shrewd evidence, and making your own assumptions. And I'm not going to sit by and let you get people lynched because of your assumptions. You know what they say happens when you assume. Like I said, if you accused your mom of being a wolf because she had hair I'd defend her, too. Does that mean her and I have a secret alliance and we're actually wolves? No.

[03:17] freakysnots: otherwise i wouldnt be posting in the first place
[03:17] astickytree: no you haben't
[03:17] freakysnots: do you agree with me
[03:17] astickytree: have you noticed people aren't doing what you tell them to?
[03:17] freakysnots: that a lot of people are having their votes altered in this game
[03:17] freakysnots: stfu for 2 sceonds
[03:18] astickytree: have you noticed people are starting not to trust you
[03:18] freakysnots: A lot of people are having their votes altered this game
[03:18] freakysnots: Vote count is hidden
[03:18] freakysnots: meaning
[03:18] freakysnots: some random bs is going on
[03:18] freakysnots: making it a mystery game

I don't understand why you said this at all. You could have saved the time and said "rzr. We got us a mystery game."

[03:18] astickytree: I doubt it's random
[03:18] freakysnots: wolves obviously can manipulate
[03:18] freakysnots: the fact that vote count is hidden
[03:18] freakysnots: to lynch non wolves
[03:18] freakysnots: agree with me so far?
[03:18] astickytree: what?
[03:19] freakysnots: The hidden vote count is an advantage towards wolves
[03:19] astickytree: I was following you up to the part about vote count hidden to lycnh non wolves
[03:19] freakysnots: ok
[03:19] astickytree: oh
[03:19] astickytree: yeah
[03:19] freakysnots: get it?
[03:19] freakysnots: ok
[03:19] freakysnots: so roundbox
[03:19] freakysnots: must have made it so that
[03:19] freakysnots: wolves can benefit from this
[03:19] freakysnots: by giving them ++ vote powers than humans
[03:19] freakysnots: and
[03:19] freakysnots: making humans weaker
[03:19] freakysnots: i.e. everytime i seer
[03:19] freakysnots: i get a phantom
[03:20] freakysnots: following me so far?
[03:20] astickytree: can you see the vote count?
[03:20] freakysnots: vote count hidden
[03:20] freakysnots: but
[03:20] freakysnots: you follow me
[03:20] freakysnots: ok?
[03:20] astickytree: can YOU see it?
[03:20] freakysnots: i cant
[03:20] astickytree: no I dont follow you
[03:20] astickytree: listen I got something to say cuz i'm lost
[03:20] freakysnots: ok
[03:20] freakysnots: i will do my best to explain

Okay, this is where I'd like you to explain yourself.

[03:21] astickytree: how do you know wolves can manipulate vote copunt?
[03:21] freakysnots: because
[03:21] freakysnots: vote count is hidden

What? You tell me that you know the wolves can manipulate vote count, then when I ask how you know that you tell me one of the most obvious things about the game?

[03:21] freakysnots: i get phantoms added to me
[03:21] freakysnots: for seering people
[03:21] freakysnots: and
[03:21] freakysnots: other peoples votes are being manipulated
[03:21] astickytree: by their role
[03:21] freakysnots: who are claiming purple/blue
[03:21] astickytree: not the wolves
[03:21] freakysnots: but look
[03:21] astickytree: no no no
[03:22] astickytree: answer me
[03:22] freakysnots: so you are telling me
[03:22] freakysnots: roundbox only change the votes for humans
[03:22] freakysnots: and not wolves
[03:22] freakysnots: and all the wolves are normal
[03:22] astickytree: how woudl I knwo that?
[03:22] freakysnots: and get 1 vote each
[03:22] freakysnots: im seer and my vote count gets changed

This:

[03:22] astickytree: you said the wolves can manipulate the vote count. There's only one way you would know that.

[03:22] freakysnots: (i get phantoms added to me)
[03:22] freakysnots: why in the ****
[03:22] freakysnots: do you think wolves cant add phantoms to people
[03:23] freakysnots: or
[03:23] freakysnots: have a boost in votes
[03:23] astickytree: how do you know they can't? How do you know anything about the wolves for sure?

More. How do you know that wolves can't do these things? How do you know so much about the wolves powers... in a mystery game.

[03:23] astickytree: unless you are one.
[03:23] astickytree: I rest my case.
[03:23] astickytree: osting
[03:23] freakysnots: ok you arent even listening to me
[03:23] astickytree: posting*
[03:23] freakysnots: im a seer
[03:23] freakysnots: i seer people
[03:23] freakysnots: i get a phantom
[03:23] freakysnots: sc says he is wolfsbane
[03:23] astickytree: look
[03:23] astickytree: I folllow you
[03:24] astickytree: I get what you're saying
[03:24] freakysnots: k
[03:24] freakysnots: there
[03:24] freakysnots: we are clear
[03:24] freakysnots: now you see why i suspect you three
[03:24] astickytree: I understand that you're telling me the wolves can manipulate the gane based on the twist upon the voting
[03:24] astickytree: but no
[03:24] freakysnots: and i expected that as your answer
[03:24] freakysnots: because i am accusing you
[03:24] freakysnots: but go on
[03:25] astickytree: you're also telling me you know thinsg for sure about the wolvesm, that nbo player could kow without being one
[03:25] freakysnots: that does not make sense
[03:25] astickytree: that's what you said
[03:25] freakysnots: the fact that i get phantoms when i seer people
[03:25] freakysnots: and the fact that vote count is hidden
[03:25] freakysnots: guarentees that wolves get a bonus in votes
[03:26] freakysnots: oh wait
[03:26] freakysnots: I should post this
[03:26] freakysnots: 2 seconds

You following me? This is all the proof I need. I can't vote for you, but listen. The only way you would know what the wolves powers are is if you are one. Or if you talked to one. And if you talked to a wolf and know these things, you're hiding them. Why would you hide wolves from the humans if you're a seer.

No tl;drs.

However tl;dr version:

In this conversation, I get sick and tired of rzr (who is a wolf) telling me that I'm stupid and I lack reasoning and common sense. So I decided to confront him 1 on 1 about my reasoning.

I propose that wolves OBVIOUSLY gain an advantage from the hidden vote count considering that it does not help the humans at all. With this said, common sense suggests that the wolves OBVIOUSLY will be able to manipulate the votes to take full advantage of the hidden vote count.

Okay. With that said, then I'd like to call you out on something. You're accusing me of being a wolf, right? And you're saying that the wolves can manipulate the votes? Okay, then let me ask you a question. How does having to vote at night manipulate the votes? Right, it doesn't. Might as well just stop there.

I know this is plausible because I receive a phantom every time I seer a player. It also just happens that three players right now are gaining voting manipulations i.e. throwing phantoms at people, 2x voting power, (rzr didn't claim his vote was any more powerful, but he says he has to vote at night time. This is obviously bs since why would his vote be no different than a vote during the day if he has to go the trouble of voting at nighttime).

The trouble? It's so hard to vote at night, really. I have to go do all these special prcedures and what not just to vote at night. /sarcasm

And rzr refuses to listen to me because you know why? He is a wolf.

Actually, I'm listening loud and clear. You know this. If I was ignoring you I wouldn't be posting right now. I wouldn't be having a chat with you till 4:30 in the morning. Don't say I'm not listening to you, I'm giving you every chance to speak your mind, I don't agree with you, sorry.

His argument is: freaky, you are a wolf for knowing that wolves have more powarful votes than humans and im going to ignore the fact that everyone that freaky suggests are wolf have really wolfish changes to their vote.

I don't know how to get any more clearer than this. All I am saying is, take out ilu this phase and I seer sc for next phase. If sc is red, we can automatically assume rzr is a wolf.

No. Don't take out ilu unless we get actual information. You have no reason. Honestly, the stupidest thing he did was coming out to only you. You've gone around and told people all about everyone's roles. He was honest with you and all that happened is you turned it against him. Same with sc. Just because they can't do something extraordinary doesn't mean they're wolves. Sorry, I'm not buying into that ****ty logic.

Quote:
[03:02] freakysnots: but there is no better person to lynch right now
[03:02] astickytree: So we have a kitb
[03:02] freakysnots: you are retarded
[03:02] astickytree: it's better than killing a random human
Also, this makes him an obvious wolf.

How on earth does that make me a wolf? Because I'd rather the vote went to the fates than your twisted hand? You're trying to manipulate the game the way you want it to go without listening to anyone else's feedback or suggestoins. Open your mind.

Now if you will excuse me, I will probably wait for rzr's response or go to sleep. I have work tomorrow and I'm going to be a zombie.

Quote:
[23:40] Tehroundbox: you put too much effort into this
stfu, I like winning.

Then you're on the wrong path.

[clarinet89]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

it seems to me that the way freaky laid out his thinking gives the humans and blues way too much power compared to the wolves. yes, the might manipulate the votes, but with all of the powerful blue claims, you would think that there would need to be a wolf or two that was just as powerful.

that's my 2 cents. i'll see you all tonight after band camp.

[sc979]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

You see, this is exactly why I did not want to tell you that second part of my ability. You don't think I know what it sounds like?

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

Rzr's argument.
Freaky is a wolf because: The only way you would know what the wolves powers are is if you are one.

It doesn't take much to figure out that the wolves are obviously taking advantage of the fact that vote count is hidden. Every time I seer someone, I have a phantom added onto me. Hey guess what, I have an ability as well as something affecting my vote like several people. So if I get phantoms for seering people and I am blue, then what makes the fact that a wolf is able to put phantoms onto people or vote during the nighttime or having their voting power multiplied any less valid.

Besides, there is nothing to worry about. Sc will be seered and all doubt will be cleared next phase. I believe rzr deserves the lynch way more than ilu, but if the seering for sc comes back as red, it would be safe to assume rzr is a wolf as well and we lynch them both.

It is useless trying to argue with rzr because he basically repeats the same thing over and over again and tries to make it look different every time.

Instead of thinking to yourselves "hmm, freaky is suspicious i dont trust him, hes no seer etc", think to yourself: is there anything in this game rzr has done that makes him any less suspicious than me. I'm trying to use all of the information I have obtained to the best of my ability, while rzr just goes and defends the all of the wolf suspects because he is part of it. I have made my reasons for voting for them very clear. Of course, there are private information that further isolate their names but revealing every role in this game helps the wolves more than it helps us.

Oh yeah, he suggest a KitB instead of killing ilu. Smart.

What ever. If you read through everything rzr has said, he accuses me of being a wolf because he claims that "I know too much about the wolf's role". There is no other reason he has and he keeps on repeating that one line non stop. I agree that I know too much about this game, but I am the seer and I am supposed to know what is going on. So far, everyone except gun has given me a role and only two people are human. Based on all of the roles given, I have listed the three most likely wolf suspects because their roles are different than all of the other ones and they do not fit into the game.

And you keep on forgetting this. I am seer.

The plan is to lynch ilu, seer sc.

Be back tonight around 11. ilu better be dead when I get back.

To all of the people that doesn't trust me: Think about this for a second. Who would you lynch this phase instead of ilu. So far, I have 3 wolf claims and rzr says I am wolf. Unless there are any other suspects I am not aware of, you will either have to choose between a blue with no special abilities at all except the voting power of 2 people, OR the 'suspicious' seer.

And I'm not arguing with rzr anymore. It's like trying to prove to a wolf that he is a wolf with evidence and he has no option but to throw retarded reasonings back.

k bye work

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

You see, this is exactly why I did not want to tell you that second part of my ability. You don't think I know what it sounds like?

You have nothing to worry about if you are purple. You are being seered and it will be announced publicly next day phase.

So if you are a purple, you would stop arguing anymore and vote for ilu.

Thanks

[rzr]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

It's getting really annoying how you order people around.

[rzr]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

Anyway, Freaky. Sorry I don't want to lynch ilu because your reasons are... lame. Why don't you thing Argo is a wolf, then? His role only has one part to it, too. Just like mine. And ilu's. But you seem to trust him just fine.

I'm going to bed now. but, remember this: These are your suspects, Freaky. Not everyone's. I want the people to vote on who they suspect, not who you do.

[Viccica]

Re: TWG LXXXVI - Maniac Mansion

Changing my safety on BDN to a vote on freaky

You are letting way too much information out on the thread. You're becoming a danger to the humans. You're being far too careless and I know you're not the real seer. You've made numerous mistakes that have only ended up hindering the human team. One monumental one which you, massflavour and anyone else you happened to tell aside from me know about.

MMViccica (2:05:36 AM): Real quick. What's your role again?
freakysnots (2:05:40 AM): one

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freakysnots (2:05:41 AM): armed
freakysnots (2:05:41 AM): vigi
MMViccica (2:05:46 AM): is organised.. I want an accurate list.
freakysnots (2:05:58 AM): my whole role?
MMViccica (2:06:05 AM): Please?
freakysnots (2:06:07 AM): i may choose 1 target
freakysnots (2:06:10 AM): to kill at any point in the game
freakysnots (2:06:12 AM): however after i used this kill
freakysnots (2:06:17 AM): my voting power will be completely nullified
freakysnots (2:06:19 AM): do remember that
freakysnots (2:06:22 AM): i will still gather phantoms
freakysnots (2:06:27 AM): even of i have no voting power
freakysnots (2:06:32 AM): just opened my pm
freakysnots (2:06:35 AM): summarized what it said
freakysnots (2:06:37 AM): everything in it

You've told me you used your vigi at the beginning of the game on massflavour. That was a wolfish thing to do. If you were a human, you would have used it when we found a wolf in order to give ourselves 2 opportunities to find a wolf in one phase. Your whole role sounds like a wolf role to me, despite whether you claim blue or not.

If I'm wrong, we don't lose a valuable role. You've used your one vigi. You are of no use to the humans at this point. You can't even vote. All you're doing is leaking what could be valuable information to the thread.

You call all this a mistake, but you're doing it time and time again.