TWG XIV - Postgame

[mead1]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

Well, I had no idea what was going on for this entire game, but all's well that end's well I guess. Congrats to the humans.

[lightdarkness]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

Kilga gets MVP because he bribed me XD

But seriously, he gets it

[Kefit]

You absolutely cannot blame the damage done to Tass's alliance on "a series of bad guards." The fact that I made one successful guarding is already far outside of the realm of the norm for this game (just look at the number of games where the guardian has made a save). Expecting me to make two successful saves is absolutely ludicrous.

Furthermore, I only made one bad decision, which was guarding Tass night two. I should have guarded Hans, simply since Hans, as the seer, was far more important than Tass. Indeed, had I known of this pm that Chardish had sent out, I would have done that. But I didn't.

Night three saw my guarding Tass once more, as even though I knew the wolves were more likely to go after Chardish than him, keeping Tass alive (since he was the psychic) was far more important than keeping Chardish alive.

Beyond all that, I would just like to point out that I named all three wolves on day one

Kilga gets MVP because he bribed me XD

But seriously, he gets it

You mean Kilga gets MVP because he was the only player who did anything at all this game who was still alive at the end.

[lightdarkness]

I misspoke, I meant to say missed guardings.

And yes, several of us were going "OMG" at Kefit's naming

[GuidoHunter]

Well, it was an interesting game.

To start off, blah and I couldn't discuss our Night 1 kill with alain. When we discussed it I was extremely hesitant to go for Tass (which blah really wanted to do) and wanted to kill Hans. However, blah mentioned something that I interpreted to mean that alain would support the wolfing of Tass, so I was eventually swayed to go that way.

Bad move. So he gets guarded and I lose interest in the game, pretty much viewing it as hopeless. Blah gets lynched and we're even worse off. I was REALLY looking forward to pulling all sorts of stunts with blah and alain, but we were immediately put on the defensive, so we couldn't associate with each other at all.

Then comes my conversation with Tass. It was at this point that I felt I could be certain that the seer was dead and the guardian, too, thereby giving us a chance. However, the Tass alliance proved to be too strong (since his logic wasn't, I'll put the reasoning on that). I lived a day thanks to Jenova, but once I died it was over.

Oh, and I'd like to mention that I talked with Tass again after I died, and he still gave his reasoning against me as "you didn't flip out when I accused you of being a wolf". I don't know how he convinced himself that such a generalization applies to EVERYONE, but I can tell you it sure as hell isn't true. I guarantee that that is exactly how I would have reacted had I been human. There was NO reason for me to get excited. You lied to me; I knew you were lying to me (I didn't actually know, but I figured as such with the way you were talking), so what would flipping out do? Plus, I'm hard to excite by nature, but I won't blame you for not knowing that.

alain started defending me because he realized that if I died he wasn't going to live through the rest of the game. Sure, it wasn't the safest thing to do, but if we could put enough pressure on enough people (talisman), we might have been able to work someone to our side.

Anyway, good game, humans.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Tasselfoot]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

This is what went wrong:

1. jay tells hans that chardish is human before starting day 1
2. hans tells chardish, but its extremely direct, causing chardish to be concerned
3. chardish, using absolutely terrible logic and strategy, tells FOUR people that "if i die, hans is a wolf"
4. knew on night 1 blah was a wolf, because of how much he was pestering me for intel into the chardish/hans deal
5. no one listens to me when i jump blah day 1, still jumping on nforcer, casuing him to die.
6. i didn't get everyone together early enough on day 1 to save nforcer, despite my posts
7. was 50/50 on whether to guard hans night 2, we chose wrong
8. tried to get ahold of kefit before the end of night 3 to tell him to guard chardish, but he wasn't online at all. chardish dies.
9. qreepy's internet is out for the entire day when i attack him. i was waiting for him to flip a bitch at me about falsely killing him, but he couldn't. qreepy dies.
10. orli goes into the hospital while i'm in class all day. i get out of class and get on a train asap and go straight to the hospital. am unable to force everyone to kill guido. at least i manage to PM every human that alain and guido are the wolves.

In the end, us humans had a ton of bad breaks over the game, but I managed to figure everything out and ensure our victory, even if I don't get the pip for it.

[Kilgamayan]

You mean Kilga gets MVP because he was the only player who did anything at all this game who was still alive at the end.

Don't kill my buzz, mang. :<

[alainbryden]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

ARGH I'm getting so sick of being a wolf. I definately hold the record for being a wolf the most times.

Sorry I didn't put up as much a fight on the last day as I usually do, but man, it was really hopeless, and I didn't want to go out looking like an idiot.

I lost because I was distant, and it was easy as hell to see my different character. I dissagree that it's easier to win a game with a 'stacked' wolf team. It's hard as hell when every member of your team is supposed to be a huge player, and has a well known playing style. Very difficult.

That's all I have time for now, but if there's any questions about my strategy or whatnot, let me know.

The last kill was not a kill to try to survive, it was a kill based on who I thought should have won the game. Tass thinks it was stupid but I don't think so.

[lightdarkness]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

Hans was the one who screwed that up

He told me he had to go, and wouldn't be on for a while. So I said, that i'd tell him the results, BUT HE CAN'T TELL ANYONE BECAUSE IF THE WOLVES KILLED HIM, THEN IT WOULD FUCK UP THE GAME.

So yea, Hans gets "anxious" and decides to use the info, AGAINST MY DIRECT ORDER

Meanie, you almost screwed up the game. I'm glad they didn't wolf Hans

[Kefit]

You mean Kilga gets MVP because he was the only player who did anything at all this game who was still alive at the end.

Don't kill my buzz, mang. :<

Sorry, I'm just a bit bitter about always being killed in the games where I actually do something >_>

[Tasselfoot]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

Also, guido.... by the time I attacked you, I knew the wolves had to be between you, alain, talisman... and you were by far the most certain of the 3. So, logic or no logic, I knew I was right. But, yea... if you knew I was lying, why would you NOT point it out? All of your explainations go against logical reactions.

[Tasselfoot]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

I feel ya Kefit... 3rd time now I've been killed LATE in a game where I otherwise would have been the MVP.

[GuidoHunter]

Nice sig, alain. =)

Anyway, I forgot to mention that I think this game could have been much easier for us had we not dicked around for the first coupla days. Blah was pressuring too hard for information and the damage was done before I could get him to back off. Alain wasn't posting enough, as everyone noticed. Seriously, man, you earned a reputation for being all over the game when you're a human, so when you were quiet it was extremely fishy. Had I participated regularly in the game before Day 3 or whenever I started playing, I think I would have been much less suspicious to all the not-Tass players. It wouldn't have been hard to do, but that was my "It's hopeless" time.

And regarding the stacked teams, had we not gotten lucky with the seer we would have probably been numbers 2, 3, and 4 on the seer list. The only difficulty for the humans, then, would be getting enough votes to lynch, but that wouldn't have been too hard, especially with a human spokesperson like Tass.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[evilbutterfly]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

Son of a bitch! jTWG is on Day 2!! TWO!! I can't remember if I'll be allowed to play the next TWG or not, now. Dammit. Night 2 lasted for like 3 days. I swear, if this means I can't play in the next TWG I'm gonna be so pissed at myself for signing on to jTWG.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XIV - Postgame

But, yea... if you knew I was lying, why would you NOT point it out? All of your explainations go against logical reactions.

Wait, I should have pointed out to you that you were lying? What good would that do? Point it out to the forums? I did, in my defense.

And I don't doubt that you had us picked out, Tass, but the method with which you tried to convince everyone else was just pathetic, to me.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com